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Moose Baumann
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...The coloring was very well
done too: deep, solid colors with modern printing techniques enhancing,
and not subverting, the art...
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Hey, thanks man! I appreciate that a lot!
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Arc Carlton
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Arc - If you asked someone much younger they might say Frank Miller or Jim Lee when you ask them about Batman.
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I guess if you're 15 then Jim Lee is your reference, and if you are in your 20s then Miller. I have read a lot of Batman comics from the 70s and 80s but I never had the chance to read them when they were originally published (I wasn't even born back then).
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Bob Kanner
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Jim Lee's Batman over Neal's?? Bwhahahahha. Funniest joke I heard in a loooong time.
I'm a huge fan of Neal's Batman and Deadman. Much as I hate saying this, especially in these parts,I prefer his old work to his new. I have an issue with the way he draws faces now, especially Superman. His Batman also just looks different.
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Robert Bradley
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Bob - I just think a new reader's frame of reference is going to be different since they probably haven't see much (or any) of the Neal Adams stuff.
To me, Adams is definitely the Batman artist, but Don Newton, Jim Aparo and Alan Davis were all great too.
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Bob Kanner
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I discovered Neal quite late myself, and so my reference was also different, but I was awed by his Batman work. I then sought out his other work. I don't dislike Lee. I quite enjoyed his Hush story. The art was nice and the colors were stunning but everyone who draws Batman now, with a few noticeable exceptions, copes Lee"s style. I've yet to see anyone even capable of capturing Neals style. His Batman is definitive. Someone off the street might find that Lees Batman looks fresh or modern or new. Someone off the street looking at Neals Batman is more likely to say that's Batman
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Sean Blythe
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Is it me, or was his old stuff better? That was a joke. Seriously, step away
from the Ban Button.
Maybe it's my graying memories of hanging out in the comic shop and
coveting the MASSIVELY expensive GL/GA back issues that lined the walls,
but for my adjusted-for-inflation money, Green Arrow is the character that
leaps to mind when I think of Neal Adams. I can't imagine an artist working
on GA who doesn't think of Neal first.
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John Byrne
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Jim Lee's Batman over Neal's?? Bwhahahahha. Funniest joke I heard in a
loooong time.
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Been paying much attention to what's been going on at DC lately? Lee is
the Batman artist. He IS the style guide.
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Jason Czeskleba
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Bruce Buchanan wrote:
| Adams is an awesome talent. I just wish he was a bit more prolific.
Other than Steranko, is there another legend with such a small body of
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I'd say Barry Smith and Marshall Rogers, if they count as legends.
Adams was much more prolific than people tend to remember. Though he never stuck around any one book for too long (except Batman) he did lots of stuff for lots of publishers. His total output dwarfs Steranko's.
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John Byrne
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Though he never stuck around any one book for too long (except Batman) he
did lots of stuff for lots of publishers.
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It is a notable measure of Neal's impact that so many people think of him as
having a long run with Batman. Long in terms of the number of years it
covered, yes. Long in terms of the actual number of issues? Not so much.
But, let's face it! This is a guy who can do the smallest amount of work
possible and still make his mark. His total page count on X-MEN is
miniscule, yet all of us who followed labored in his shadow!
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Keith Thomas
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Unmasking Magneto and Havok alone make him one of my
favorite X-men artists. I never understood why Havok wasn't
used more, he was one of my favorite X-men.
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Paul Kimball
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Perhaps it's just me, but it seems like the x-men have some of marvel's
more visually interesting characters.
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Jason Czeskleba
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I was curious so I went and counted... according to the Neal Adams checklist, he did nine issues of Brave and Bold in 1969, then did 8 issues of Detective in 1970-71, and then did 8 issues of Batman and 2 more Brave and Bolds during 1971-74. So that's a grand total of 27 Batman stories. Far more than a handful, but not that many in the grand scheme of things, or relative to the amount of influence they had. It sure seemed like more than that at the time... I guess as JB said because it was spread out over a 5-year period, and also because he did a pile of Batman covers too.
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