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Anthony Frail Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 09 October 2007 Posts: 960
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Posted: 13 March 2009 at 10:35pm | IP Logged | 1
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I think having had a talent like Gibbons or Byrne on it would have increased
the popularity of SS by a tremendous amount. I mean, how much would your
enjoyment of the work rise if Alan Davis had drawn it?
(Answer-- A lot.)
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Chris Back Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Posts: 683
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Posted: 13 March 2009 at 10:45pm | IP Logged | 2
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Well...haven't seen Watchmen....haven't read the thing in at least ten years....and can honestly say it's not in my top 100.
Edited by Chris Back on 13 March 2009 at 10:45pm
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Jason Schulman Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 08 July 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2473
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Posted: 14 March 2009 at 12:52am | IP Logged | 3
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I've never understood why Dave Gibbons never became a "fan favorite." He really is one of the best artists in comics.
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Mike Norris Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 March 2009 at 1:43am | IP Logged | 4
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I cant remember a thing about that particular S.S. story. Even though I've read it and read a synopsis or two online. It just never sticks.For me the Thomas and Englehart takes are pretty much it.
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Andrew W. Farago Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 4079
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Posted: 14 March 2009 at 3:11am | IP Logged | 5
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Squadron Supreme had at least two or three different pencilers and multiple
inkers, didn't it? I think that the most enduring works in comics have had
consistent creative teams from start to finish. Watchmen had Dave Gibbons
and John Higgins handling the art and colors from start to finish, and the
book has a very definitive look to it. Squadron Supreme doesn't have that,
and suffers as a result.
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Robert Walsh Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 March 2009 at 3:18am | IP Logged | 6
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Because Watchmen is not fondly remembered because of its plot, it's the execution of that plot that generates the praise.
Bob Dylan wrote and originally performed "All Along The Watchtower", but it's the Jimi Hendrix version that gets all the praise, even from Bob Dylan. Same thing happened with Johnny Cash's cover of Nine Inch Nails "Hurt", which transformed a good song into a great one.. Sometimes it's the singer not the song. Or more accurately, it's the singer and the song coming together and creating something much greater than the sum of their parts.
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Robert Walsh Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 March 2009 at 3:28am | IP Logged | 7
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Or just take a gander at Watchmen the movie and Watchmen the comic. The movie pretty faithfully rendered the plot of the book (only the ending is really different) and it's a basically a dull action movie with some great moments. Everything that made the Watchmen special was excised out of the movie, because it had nothing to do with the plot and the movie only time to deal with the plot.
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Jason Mark Hickok Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 March 2009 at 7:33am | IP Logged | 8
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I know SS had at least two artists. Bob Hall & Paul Ryan (sorry I can't remember who inked them). It has been years since i have read either SS or The Watchmen but I remember liking them both.
Robert-- I disagree that Johnny Cash did a better version of Hurt than Trent Reznor did. I think it was a cool version and different but not better.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 14 March 2009 at 7:43am | IP Logged | 9
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I've never understood why Dave Gibbons never became a "fan favorite." He
really is one of the best artists in comics.
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Dave is the Curt Swan of my generation. He's just too good to be "hot".
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John Byrne
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Posted: 14 March 2009 at 7:45am | IP Logged | 10
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Watchmen is not fondly remembered because of its plot, it's the execution of
that plot that generates the praise.
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The "plot" would get it laughed out of the hall. And the part where
Ozymandias says "I got this from an OUTER LIMITS episode" would have the
lawyers going "What??"
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Glenn Greenberg Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 March 2009 at 9:08am | IP Logged | 11
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<<<it took over 10 years to be collected - and even so only because Mark Gruenwald died!>>>
And because Alex Ross pushed for it and offered to paint the cover if we would collect it in one volume.
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Robert White Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 March 2009 at 9:10am | IP Logged | 12
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Dave Gibbons art style is well crafted, understated and classy. Do you even need to ask why he isn't a "fan favorite"?
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