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Paul Greer Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 23 March 2009 at 12:54pm | IP Logged | 1
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I thought The Originals was a good book. Gibbons has become a very good writer on his own. I don't discount anything Alan Moore did with Watchmen, but without the imput of Gibbons it would have been a different book.
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JT Molloy Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 23 March 2009 at 1:05pm | IP Logged | 2
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Old hero decides to kill millions (?) of people to save the world and
gets away with it (even after getting caught) and the guy who tries to
stop him dies.
What is so great about it? Seriously.
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The last panel shown is his journal. Nuff said.
I don't think Watchmen is all that great, and I just read it 2 weeks ago, but for the love of all that is unholy, his journal was the last thing shown. The cycle repeats itself. How is there ANY other way to look at this?
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Robert LaGuardia Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 15 November 2007 Location: United States Posts: 1296
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Posted: 23 March 2009 at 3:15pm | IP Logged | 3
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Well Dr. Manhattan says "nothing ever ends". Also remember that the journal is not complete, it's basically about a "mask-killer", without anything to do with what happens to NYC
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Ron Scott Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 22 March 2009 Location: United States Posts: 160
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Posted: 23 March 2009 at 5:04pm | IP Logged | 4
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Joe Zhang said:
Watchmen is kind of freaky and interesting. It's exactly what Alan Moore's good at, and what people go to him for. When I read it, I enjoyed it for what it was. I do resent the hacks who have turned the Watchmen into an industry-wide style guide and bible, though.
I agree! Well said, Joe!
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Jonas Vesterlund Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 January 2005 Location: United States Posts: 241
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Posted: 26 March 2009 at 1:13pm | IP Logged | 5
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Speaking of Squadron Supreme artist Paul Ryan.... I think he has done some of his best stuff in the last 10 years. His Swedish Phantom issues are very some of his strongest work, sadly those are not avaliable in the US. I am attaching some cover images here, in case anyone is interested...
Edited by Jonas Vesterlund on 26 March 2009 at 1:15pm
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Chad Carter Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 March 2009 at 3:41pm | IP Logged | 6
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Man that Phantom stuff looks sweet.
Too bad the current Moonstone version isn't quite as...appealing to me. I just can't get into it.
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Eric Smearman Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 02 September 2006 Location: United States Posts: 5823
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Posted: 26 March 2009 at 4:33pm | IP Logged | 7
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I enjoyed Ryan's runs on FF and Flash. I really wish he'd done some more Superman stuff.
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Steven Myers Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 March 2009 at 7:08pm | IP Logged | 8
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I still remember talking with Paul Ryan at a convention in the early 90's. Said he worked a regular 40 hour week as a graphic designer before turing to comics and working 60 hours a week to make about the same ammount of money...because he enjoyed the work so much more! I am still impressed!
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Gary Olson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 06 April 2009 at 8:35pm | IP Logged | 9
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In the Watchmen film, a character apparently supposed to be Woody Allen makes a brief cameo appearance as a talk show guest. In reference to Dr. Manhattan and the jingoisms about how "The superman exists and he's American", ' Woody' remarks that "What I actually said was that God exists and he's American... and that if you're disturbed by the theological implications of this, don't worry; it just means you're sane."
The real Woody must have used that line sometime. Nice of the filmmakers to give Mr. Allen a nod, since later in the film there's a scene in Which Dr. Manhattan tells Laurie that she's "You're my only remaining connection to the world," and she replies that that's not fair; it's too much responsibility. That's a direct swipe from Woody's Hannah And Her Sisters.
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Michael Huber Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 06 April 2009 at 8:42pm | IP Logged | 10
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Which came out first Hannah or the Watchmen series?
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Jason Mark Hickok Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 06 April 2009 at 8:47pm | IP Logged | 11
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They were pretty close together I know Hannah & her sisters was in early 1986. I believe Watchmen was the fall of '86 or late '86 when that was released.
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Gary Olson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 06 April 2009 at 8:53pm | IP Logged | 12
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I was referring to the recent Watchmen film.(Which came out 23 years later than Hannah.) I don't think Alan Moore used dialogue I cited in his original book.
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