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John Byrne
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Like someone else said, The title of this thread might well have been "Why
doesn’t Captain Carrot get as much praise as Watchmen?"
What an incredibly stupid false thing to say.
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Why? We're deep into OPINION here.
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Victor Rodgers
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Our friend Pedro has said these things can be stated as facts. Im simply playing on the field he created.
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John Byrne
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The very title of this thread denies it any claim to "fact".
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Victor Rodgers
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Like I said Pedro is the one who started it.
I must ask this again. Why is Paul Ryan so hated? Nothing about his art is terrible. The printing and coloring on Squadron was not great. But his artwork was very good. His art on the Squadron graphic novel was great imo.
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Andrew W. Farago
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Paul Ryan's a very solid artist in the "Curt Swan" mold. If his name's in
the credits, you're going to get a clearly-told story without a lot of bells
and whistles. He's almost a throwback to an earlier era--with the right
inker, you probably could have had him penciling Justice League of
America back in the 1960s without his work looking too out of place. I
don't think he's "hated" so much as he just never became a fan favorite.
My favorite Paul Ryan art job, for what it's worth, is when he inked a few
issues of John Byrne's West Coast Avengers. That was a killer
combination.
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Jason Mark Hickok
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So when is this really going to turn into a Captain Carrot/Watchmen debate? =)
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Martin Redmond
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Most of Paul Ryan's stuff lost alot from being inked by others. His FF issues, the cover looks great but the interiors kind of went down a notch just cause of the inking. But that's just my opinion.
I think Dave Gibbons was more of a Curt Swan~
Edited by Martin Redmond on 16 March 2009 at 3:44pm
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Al Cook
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Captain Carrot > Watchmen. Fact.
No need for debate.
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Martin Redmond
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Super PRO> Captain Carrot
Broken Bicycle>SuperPRO
Edited by Martin Redmond on 16 March 2009 at 3:45pm
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Jason Fliegel
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So when is this really going to turn into a Captain Carrot/Watchmen debate? =)
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Who Watches the Watch-hen?
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Jason Schulman
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Funny that JB compares Dave Gibbons to Curt Swan. Every time Gibbons draws Superman, I think "Wow, that is Pure Silver Age Goodness."
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Eric Smearman
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Paul Ryan's great, imo. His issues of SS were pretty good. If he (or anyone) were the sole artist the series may be remembered and regarded better.
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