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Gerry Turnbull
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some of his work is a little too risque to have lying around tho
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JT Molloy
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A - The project I'm working on and hope to do something with down the line starts with the origin in Novel form, then I'd want regular 22 page comics, but every year or 2 come back with another novel for important story changes.
I wish more stuff was like that, it's almost like how comic-strips run 3 or 4 panels for Mon-Sat and the BIG one is on Sunday! I'd love to have maybe something like a year of single comics, and a graphic novel be the 12th month.
B - JB, that'd be so cool to see more novel stuff from you!
C - Decompression is what leads to fans wanting everything in the trade. Thing is, when you eventually get that trade, it like Johnny Rotten: "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated." I got the first trade for INVINCIBLE because I kept hearing good things, and I wanted to scream afterwards because it took me like 5 minutes to read. There's no way anyone could ever convince me to get another one let alone a single issue filled with 3 words.
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JT Molloy
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Okay, while I'm whining about modern comics and writing for the trade, I gotta get this off my chest.
This is NOT funny anymore, it's obvious padding and I'm really sick of seeing things like it...
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Cliff Richard
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DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jeremiah Hetherington
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I've always loved the format, and you can tell so many kinds of stories with it as well. Years ago I bought a set of two TPBs by Timothy Truman that focused on American frontier figure Simon Girty. The format allowed Truman to really lay out the story of Girty's life. It was evident he took a great deal of time with his research, from the events of the man's life to intricate details of the clothing the settlers and Indians wore at the time. It was a teriffic read, and really displayed the merits of long form comics stoytelling.
Go for it Mr. B! You could really sink your teeth into a project like this.
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John Byrne
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Um, that´s all right. You might want to have a look at Milo Manara´s recent
BORGIA book, though.
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See! I knew it was a good idea!
(Darn!)
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John Byrne
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I would love to read and see you take on the architecture and fashion of
distant ages -and of course reading it!-, come on... even a sci-fi adventure
taking place in any of those ages could be great!
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Not really talking about setting a science fiction story in a bygone age,
Victor. Not "steam punk", as it were. Rather, borrowing a page from
Asimov, Herbert and, yes, Lucas and translating that bygone age to the
far flung future. So, for instance, the Princess Elizabeth becomes heir to the
throne of a distant, threatened star kingdom. Countries become planets.
Knights become spacemen. And, no doubt, foreigners become aliens!
Had the idea kind of crystalize recently, reading a biography of Elizabeth I,
when I found myself picturing the noblemen who came to tell the young
princess her sister Mary was dead and she was now Queen, arriving not on
horseback, but thundering down out of the sky in a great black starship.
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Richard Stevens
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This is a lovely idea. Any of the above, especially Next Men.
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Cliff Richard
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Seriously -- I think, at this later stage of John Byrne's career -- this type of formatting is the logical next step -- truly showcasing a master storyteller.
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Pedro Bouça
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Since we are talking about a graphic novel series AND someone shown the Borgia book, it bears mention that the "graphic novel series" is pretty much the way european comics are published nowadays.
They are published every year or so on books with lengths from 44 (most common) to 96 pages. Big books, with larger formats and more panels per page than the typical US comic, so they would easily be equivalent to a 80+ page US graphic novel. Needless to say, they are sold as books, not graphic novels. And it works.
So, if JB published, say, a 96 page GN every semester or so (in-between other jobs), I'm sure he could do his personal creator-owned job we (well, *I* at least!) love so much while working in more regularly paid (work-for-hire) jobs.
To help the format be economically viable, release them first as direct market only HCs costing something like 15-20 dollars (that's assuming they would be regular US comic format color books, B&W and/or digest books are cheaper). And a few (3-4) months later the cheaper mass-market SC (costing 10-13 dollars). The DM retailers would be happy to have an exclusive product before the bookstores do, while the cheaper editions would be competitive price-wise with the already existing "bookstore" comics (manga and US TPBs).
What do you all think?
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Philippe Negrin
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It sounds really great Pedro.
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Michael Retour
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I like the idea of stand alone paperbacks. I don't like the current monthlies that seem to be all written for a trade anyway and then extra material is added to try to get you to buy it twice if you're a real fan of the artist.
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