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Michael Huber
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So whose the figure in the lasso above her supposed to be? Or am I seeing things?
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Al Cook
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It's a Picasso nude.
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Michael Huber
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Picasso posed nude?
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Robert LaGuardia
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I really like Pope's work, his art is always interesting. I also think his work has an urban feel to it, which fits Batman perfectly.
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John Byrne
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I also think his work has an urban feel to it, which fits Batman perfectly.
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The environment, but not the character. Batman designed his costume to
set himself apart from the world in which he lives, not to blend into it.
This is one of the things that made the Neal Adams Batman work so well.
Neal brought a photorealistic approach to Gotham City such as had not
been seen before. Suddenly there were overturned garbage cans in those
back alleys. Litter in the gutters. Glistening towers soared above
crumbling hovels. And thru this moved Batman, himself sleek, smooth
and clean as a whistle.
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Paulo Pereira
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QUOTE:
And thru this moved Batman, himself sleek, smooth
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Perhaps one reason why he is called the Dark Knight. Knights weren't known for being dirty or "grungy."
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Al Cook
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Neal Adams is in my personal top five somewhere, too. His Batman is
my Batman.
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John Byrne
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Neal and Dick Sprang tie in my mind as the definitive Batman artists. A
mangling of the Queen's English to suggest that you can can two
"definitive" anything, but we are, after all, talking about two rather distinct
iterations of the character!
(A lesson most current artists would do well to learn from Neal: when he
started drawing Batman he "played by the rules" and drew the Infantino-
esque version of the character that was the "model" of the day. Only
gradually did he introduce the distinctive Adams elements. Not, in other
words, a case of the latest hotshot inflicting his "vision" upon us, without
any respect for the character.*)
*Not a reference to Paul Pope.
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Michael Penn
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That is so very true of Neal Adams. When he first began to draw Batman, I took no notice at all. I was far too young to possess any kind of conscious critical faculty, but it just seemed a continuation of what came before -- more precisely, nothing seemed overtly different, so I paid no attention. It was Adams' work on The Avengers that turned my comic book reading world upside down, and only after that I went back and saw the real Adams' Batman.
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Michael Retour
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I love them both.
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John Byrne
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Those image point up the problem precisely. Adams has drawn Batman.
Pope has drawn some guy in a home-made Batman costume.
("Home-made" being a problem with the way a lot of artists draw
Superheroes, these days. Must suck the grandeur out of it! Must suck the
grandeur out of it!)
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Flavio Sapha
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How about this?
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