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Knut Robert Knutsen
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I've heard only raves about Jose Luis Garcia Lopez' DC style guide.  I've been looking online for copies, since I've heard that it circulated in fan circles as well as editorial. But no luck. They should do a Showcase presents of that stuff (I know they were going to release Who's Who as a Showcase, but that looks like one of the permanently delayed volumes)

I read that Perez was supposed to head up the job of making a new style guide for the comics division of DC, but I don't suppose that'll get published.

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Found this a while back posted comicartwork.com or something.

Why wouldn't this work as well as any "modern" artist representation? If a new reader doesn't know Garcia-Lopez from Jennifer Lopez, what diff does it make? The only thing that clues me in that this is an "old" representation is that it's anatomically beautiful, the hero is smiling, and the art is clean and spare instead of scratchy and overtly over-detailed.

 

 

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man, I'd LOVE to see any examples of one of those guides. just once.


EDIT: EEK"! THERE"S SOME! THANKS MAN!

Solid draftsmanship never goes out of style. Look at that! Crisp, solidly built & a strong silhouette.

Paul Pope is a great artist with exciting energy, and he can have those qualities in his work too, but man, this is screaming SUPER-HERO to me. Pretty iconic.


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Michael Retour
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That's a gorgeous Garcia-Lopez.  
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Michael-
Sounds like we have the same current comic- buying habits!
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With books selling on average less than half of what they did -- and
those the best sellers! -- when Jose did that Style Guide, I'd say trying to
appeal to the modern fanbase is about the same as chugging back a big
frothy mug of hemlock.


Sorry, I wasn't clear.

I meant the styles of the popular children's cartoons. It seems like the art
style of these cartoons and the art styles used in animation when I was a
child are pretty different.
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Also, I'd like to note that I am not sayign anything definitively here; JLGL's
art might be exactly what we need right now.

I'm just comparing it to what the kids seem to like today and wonder if it'll
work as it did in the 80's.
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Now this is what I would consider the iconic JLA by Garcia-Lopez:



I believe this was some sort of Style Guide by Garcia-Lopez:




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I meant the styles of the popular children's cartoons. It seems like the art
style of these cartoons and the art styles used in animation when I was a
child are pretty different.

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But they're not all the SAME, are they? So it would seem kids can accept a
wide variety of styles. In fact, it would seem they seek out a wide variety of
styles. So making comics look the the latest flavor of the month TV
animation would seem to be precisely the wrong way to go.
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Michael Retour
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No, they are not the same.  I agree JB.  The below is hardly what Bruce Timm and his cohorts have done with the Batman stuff.


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Knut Robert Knutsen
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In my (albeit limited) experience, kids love it when they catch just a quick glimpse of a cartoon or animation show and immediately know what they're watching.

I've got a 6 year old nephew who will take one look at a black and white  Curt Swan drawing of a 19 year old Clark Kent and know that's Superman or take one look at a black and white drawing of The Hulk, by Sal Buscema, inked by Gerry Talaoc, wearing a suit and trenchcoat and sitting down and say "That's the Hulk".

That's the kind of recognizability you want in a no-attention-span media world. So what do they do? Either try to make everything look like the last hot thing or mix up the styles until nobody recognizes them anymore.

The Batman Adventures Cartoon looked like somebody took Dick Sprang, added a bit of Neal Adams,Jim Aparo and , strangely, Frank Robbins and wrapped it all up in Alex Toth.  Instant Iconic Batman.

The old Fleischer Superman Cartoons were clearly based on the artwork of Joe Shuster and his crew. Instant Iconic Superman. Superman Adventures? It should have evoked Shuster, Boring, Swan and Schaffenberger and then had some slickness to it for the Cartoonish line. Instead it just looked like something new to Superman. Not bad at all , but it could have been more "Iconic" I guess.

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The Fleischer Superman stuff was tops in my book and Steve Rude captured it well.




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