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Ferran Delgado
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Do you know if Dave Cockrum drew this model sheet exclusively for you or
it was a generic work for in house reference? Did you use it? Did Cockrum
draw the Phoenix figure in Iron Fist #15? Did you have more model sheets
by Cockrum from X-Men characters when you began your run on X-Men?
Thanks in advance!
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John Byrne
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Do you know if Dave Cockrum drew this model sheet exclusively for you
or it was a generic work for in house reference? Did you use it? Did
Cockrum draw the Phoenix figure in Iron Fist #15? Did you have more
model sheets by Cockrum from X-Men characters when you began your
run on X-Men? Thanks in advance!
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"Generic".
Nope.
Yup.
Nope.
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Mal Gardiner
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Two things about that model sheet I never noticed in all these years:
1. There's a Phoenix clasp on Jean's right hip. Never noticed that until it was pointed out on that sheet. Well there you go.
2. She's only 5'4"? That's Logan's height, right? I always thought she was closer to 5'9", 5'10", considering Scott's a six footer or so. Am I about right?
Cheers, Mal
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Mal Gardiner
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| Posted: 07 July 2008 at 8:22am | IP Logged | 4
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One other thing: Dave C. was bloody good when his game was on, wasn't he?
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Paulo Pereira
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| Posted: 07 July 2008 at 8:23am | IP Logged | 5
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Logan is 5'3". She does appear more than 1" taller than Logan in the comics. However, she does wear heels, at least as Phoenix.
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Mal Gardiner
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Yeah, someone an inch taller calling you "shrimp" is taking a bit of a liberty, no?
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Paulo Pereira
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Heh. True.
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Michael Roberts
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2. She's only 5'4"? That's Logan's height, right? I always thought she
was closer to 5'9", 5'10", considering Scott's a six footer or so. Am I
about right?
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The OHOTMU listed her as 5'6, and I think that's what Marvel has gone with ever since.
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Al Cook
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| Posted: 07 July 2008 at 8:33am | IP Logged | 9
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"Yeah, someone an inch taller calling you "shrimp" is taking a bit of a liberty,
no?"
That kind of chutzpah, is it any wonder he ended up so taken with her?
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Michael Penn
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This really makes me miss Dave Cockrum's work.
The man was great.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 07 July 2008 at 9:03am | IP Logged | 11
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Dave C. was bloody good when his game was on, wasn't he?
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Few better. And one who really did have a distinctive artistic "voice". I
remember Roger Stern kidding him about these "model sheets". "How to
Draw the X-Men? You mean How to Draw the X-Men like Dave Cockrum!"
When I started on UNCANNY, I would have gladly handed over a few semi-
vital body parts for that ability!
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Brad Brickley
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Dave Cockrum was great. His Legion and X-Men costumes had a great flow overall. His Lightning Lad is still one of my favorites, noticed that they've incorporated some of it into Black Lightning's look.
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