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Donald Miller
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I will relate a little story here that should explain my disdain for P.E.
During my Senior year in high school (I was bussed here from across town) our P.E. coach decided that we would shoot baskets that day to the cheering mass of Jocks.
"OK, everyone gets 5 shots, you make 'em all and you get an A for the day. For each one you miss you lose a letter grade." the coach announced.
My hand shot up.
"Miller? what is it?", his voice held no patience for interruptions.
"Will you be teaching us shooting technique, coach?" I asked.
"Everyone knows how to shoot a basketball Miller?" He waved me off dismissively.
"I have never been taught to shoot a basketball, and it seems unfair to give me a grade for the day on a subject you have not yet taught me."
"Miller here has volunteered to go first gentlemen." to laughter and hoots.
I took my shots, failing miserably. I then walked out while the coach yelled my name...I went straight to the principals office and filed my complaint, It was of course, ignored. Within a couple of weeks I left and got my GED. never looking back.
Hindsight being 20/20, I probably should have stayed in school and gone straight to college instead of the twisted tortured route I took, however the trip made me who I am and I have no regrets.
Don
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Joakim Jahlmar
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That's really bad, Don. That kind of thinking makes one wonder whether it should be a graded school subject at all (because sadly, of course, it's not the only example of its kind). I'm not saying everyone by default should be able to excel, but if there is NO teaching involved, then how in the name of all things unholy is it something which belongs on a school curriculum in the first place?
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Donald Miller
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It really odd, I was not an unhealthy type. I was on the cross country team, I ran 8 miles a day. But in order to learn how to do that, I had to be taught. Steve wasn't kidding about the breathing thing. You have to actually think about it when you are running for long distances.
I am not a against P.E. I just think it needs to have the E. emphasized a little more.
The sports and games are fine as well, as long as the rules are laid out and sportsmanship is also taught.
We played a version of Dodgeball that I have encountered nowhere else. We called it Slaughterball, and it involved about five kids lined up on a brick wall (as targets natch.) they could catch the ball to switch out...or after three hits rotate out, but they did not get to throw until after a switch. Fun stuff for all, because the coach ensured that everyone spent some time against the wall, and if he caught someone bullying he would put them against the wall and take a shot or two himself.
Don
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Joakim Jahlmar
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Oh, don't get me wrong, Don, though I was never much of a fan of P.E. as a kid, I do think it fills a purpose. Although I'm skeptical towards grading, and in particular when the teaching rules, methods and whatnots are left out.
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Bruce Buchanan
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Slaughterball, eh? That sounds like an old playground game that I absolutely hated called "Kill the man with the ball" (it has another not-so-nice name that I don't care to repeat).
You take a football and throw it up in the air. The guy who catches it has to run around with it, while everyone else attempts to tackle him. Once he been knocked to the ground, someone else takes the ball and it starts all over again. It's kind of like what I perceive rugby to be (sorry, all you folks in the UK - rugby makes no sense to me.)
Whenever we played that, I would develop a case of the "alligator arms" when it came to catching the ball!
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Al Cook
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I haven't written anything in this thread in a while.
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Al Cook
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Anything worthwhile, that is.
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Geoff Gibson
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I haven't written anything in this thread in a while. Anything worthwhile, that is.
Yes you did -- you wrote:
Suck it, Citizen Kane.
And it did.
Edited by Geoff Gibson on 24 April 2009 at 8:20am
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Joakim Jahlmar
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Aw, come on, Geoff. I'll gladly agree that I don't understand why it continuously make it as best film ever, but it's a well constructed and well told tale on many a level, though certainly slow paced (particularly for audiences of today). But suck?
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Michael Penn
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Suck it, Citizen Kane.
And it did.
****
Yup!
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Geoff Gibson
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No I love Citzen Kane. I was agreeing with Al -- after Dodgeball, Citzen Kane can suck it (what ever "it" is -- I assume a lemon flavored jaw breaker).
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Bruce Buchanan
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Well, it's no Dodgeball, I can tell you that.
Joakim, I'll second Steve's recommendation of Orson Scott Card's work. Ender's Game is a true science fiction classic. I've never felt that his politics slip over into his work at all.
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