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Brian Talley
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Chris Brown will have married Oprah and Rihanna will be a lesbian.
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Peter Svensson
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Gee, I hope Chris Brown doesn't win the Nickelodeon Kid's Choice Awards. That'd be awkward.
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Brian Talley
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I wouldn't worry about that, Peter.....
http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009/03/chris-brown-wit.html
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Al Cook
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Joakim Jahlmar wrote:
One of the easiest examples to illustrate this
dilemma would actually be the question of kids. If one party is 100% pro
getting kids and the other party is 100% against getting kids, that a fairly
fundamental obstacle, and one which I would say cannot be compromised
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You're probably right, but it's not that likely that two people would ever
get married with such a fundamental difference existing between them.
Edited because I had to grammar-nazi myself.
Edited by Al Cook on 11 March 2009 at 9:04pm
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Joakim Jahlmar
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Al wrote:
"You're probably right, but it's not that likely that two people would ever
get married with such a fundamental difference existing between them."
Well, given that some people seem to leap into wedlock before basically knowing the first thing about each other's fundamental beliefs sometimes, I'm not entirely convinced...
But I do have to confess that I didn't limit myself to wedded couples with regards to the question. For my own part, I am unwedded and I'm not sure I will ever be wedded, though I certainly hope I will be spending the rest of my days in the company of girlfriend, whom I live with. To me the key point in the question is whether a (romantic) relationship can survive these things, regardless of the religious, social or whatnot structural terms of the relationship.
And I know from personal experience that one can have lengthy relationships with someone whom one is not suited to be together with, on fundamental levels. I do believe arguments are a healthy part of any form of human relations, but there is a question concerning what type of argument it is. It's not necessarily that all arguments need be resolved in easy compromise or total agreement, but there is something entirely wrong if the same (fundamental) argument keeps recurring with an almost regular interval. Kind of like starting a computer and having it run up to a certain point where a given system failure occurs, the push the reset button, start up again, have it run up to that point yet again, crash, reset... repeat procedure till mental fade. If that's the pattern it's almost starting to fall under the abuse section even though no party in that instance is an actual abuser (even on a mental level), the situation is generating some sort of mental abuse in an of itself.
And that's as good a time as any to run as far and fast as possible, I think.
Incidentally, I find it somewhat interesting that these matters so seem to generate extreme responses, not in terms of posts here or anything, but what I mean is that people often either seem to be advocating trying* to work through any crises, old school style (before easy access divorce), or giving up at the first sign of any sincere trouble.** Needless to say, perhaps (given what I've said so far), but I do think a middle way is preferrable. Work for it HARD, but don't waste your life or kill yourself trying.
* Even when the trying actually doesn't equal sincere trying to work things through, but rather biting together and suffer through that wondrous life.
** There does seem to be a large number of people around these days who don't seem to think a relationship should involve even the possibility of work... thus jumping ship at the first sign of any half real hassle.
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Joakim Jahlmar
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Now please someone say something cheerful... I've managed to delve into a brooding state from a slight retrospection caused by the topic above...
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Al Cook
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Puppies, sunshine and flowers!
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Geoff Gibson
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Now please someone say something cheerful...
George W. Bush is no longer president.
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Joakim Jahlmar
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Al wrote:
"Puppies, sunshine and flowers!"
Can I have my puppies in the shade? ;)
Geoff wrote:
"George W. Bush is no longer president."
Hm. I'm trying to decide whether that's cheerful or just constitutes massive relief. ;)
(Regardless, of course, it does work as a potent remedy.)
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Michael Tortorice
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Here's a fundamental difference I ran into with the ex: I was committed to a loving, supportive relationship (that included dealing with her retarded relatives), and she was a psychotic bitch. Funny thing about it is she broke up with me. If she hadn't stepped up, I'd still be blissfully spinning my wheels in an empty relationship.
Okay, I'm dumb. Don't swing at the easy ones.
Now before anyone gives me trouble about using the word "retarded," let me 'splain: the ex had an uncle who was legally retarded and he's her only relative I liked. The man was 60-something years old and they had never taught him to speak. He could have, having picked up a few words here and there (five at the most, that I heard), but they never took the time to teach him.
That's retarded.
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Moyer Hall
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Retarded is just a fun word Michael... you are excused.
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Michael Tortorice
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Thank you.
I don't generally use it. I save it for special occasions.
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