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Tom French
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Gah... we are all so GAY!
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Juan Jose Colin Arciniega
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I've been having a lot of work, and i finally had a little time to read what was about Jodi.

I gotta say, as many here have said already, that you did your best and we admire you Jodi. Things will work out now.
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Tom French
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Here's a bit of philosophy:

The wound must be exposed in order to heal. 

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Gah... we are all so GAY!

High praise, indeed!

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Jodi, I could apologize for calling you out like that, but, I am not really sorry...you needed to talk about it and I am so glad that you have.

No I am glad you did too, you all have been so kind and it has meant so much. I talked to Chandler tonight, she is doing fairly well. She has made an appointment with a counselor and will be starting on Thursday. I plan to call her once a week and in the summer she will come and stay with us. The thing that worried me so much was she would start doing self abusive things and change the whole course of her life. It is remarkable she has done so well thru all of this with just turning 16, I told her it is a testimonial to her spirit.

Tom I love this : The wound must be exposed in order to heal.

Gah... we are all so GAY!

And that's why I love coming here!

Now I heard there was going to be a big 100 page party pretty soon. Woot woot!

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I haven't contributed much to this today. Let me just say it's affected me a
lot.

Jodi - you're inspiring.

Don - your perceptiveness is as well.

Everyone - Geoff, Tom, Brian, Victor, Juan, Wayne, Don, Jodi - I'm moved.

Carry on.
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Joakim Jahlmar
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Another game of catch (and moving toward triple digits for the thread)...

Al wrote:
"Then howcum we never see you in the Rush and Genesis threads, Joakim?"

The page count alone has sort of... held me back a bit.  First all the catching up, and then I bet it's gonna be a game of catch up to keep up, if you know what I mean. ;)
But definitely two bands I really enjoy.  Heck, I even spent some time as a reviewer for the Dutch Progressive Rock Page and there are some photos on FB from my stint as presenter at the Prog Power festival in Holland 2000 or 2001.

Tom wrote:
"I hear you.  Still, in order for an audience to 'enter' the show, they have to sympathize with someone.  Certainly, you can't sympathize with the American, the protagonist, arrogant bastard that he is, and the women are no better -- although I believe we feel for the Russian's wife -- but not enough to carry a show.  Some great tunes, I'll grant you, but not much of a show."

Well, never having seen it, I have a hard time arguing anything concerning the latter. But taken as a "concept album" I get sucked in every time ? "They all think they see a man who doesn't know, which move to make, which way to go, whose private life caused his decline, wrecked his grand design. Some are vicious some are fools and other blind, to see in me one of their kind. Anyone can be a husband lover sooner them than me, when they discover their domestic bliss is shelter for their failure..."  Ok, sorry, just got in a singing mood for a wee bit.

Tom also wrote:
"I HAVE looked at your web site, although not enough to do more than just offer an opinion, not a critique.  I like your stuff.  I want to offer you a deeper criticism, so hang tight babe."

Well strictly speaking it IS my friend's website. He's the artist and composer. I'm "merely" helping out on the lyrics front.  :)
Looking forward to hearing more indepth comments from ya!

More Tom:
"Okay, since I'm doing all the bitching, here's some lyrics from AESOP that I wrote this summer, to give you all a chance to get even -- lol.  This is the fable of the Jackdaw and the Peacock (a jackdaw is a small crow).  This song is an uptempo counrty two-step, the kind of thing you'd hear on Garrison Keillor's show."

Well, seeing this and having seen the Edinburgh cast in make up photos, I have to say I'd've really liked to see this one.

Steve wrote:
"I like most musicals and have no real preference, the only thing I absolutely can't stand is the conversation song. Two characters are having a conversation, it isn't very interesting, and because it's a song it is also somewhat repetitive. The music doesn't flow very well, the conversation is strained and most of the time I just feel the songwriters are showing off their skills instead of serving the play."

I do think Chess contains some really good "conversation" pieces. Especially the "Argument" which is one of my favourites and which an old girlfriend of mine and I used to sing a lot, just for the heck of it.

Tom wrote:
"PHANTOM -- another Andrew Lloyed Webber travesty -- was from the era of the Over-Produced Musical, where the set was more important than the plot.  Although I liked LES MIS -- especially the scaled-down road tour -- it suffered from the same extravegances. (sp?)"

Ok, saw it once in London and once in Stockholm, and the set was more or less exactly the same and blew me away. Incidentally I can normally appreciate both the the extremely under-produced (in terms of stage decour et al) and the lavishly over-produced, both in musical, concerts, theatre and movies.   Though I am a bit of a sucker for feasts for the eye.

Geoff wrote:
"Not sure how I could help you 'hear' the melody. I don't have it recorded and don't have the means (or time) to record it now.  The guitar chord progression was fairly simple straight ahead rock music (the best kind!): A5, [...]"

And that's where you lost me.  Have to 'fess up that I can read neither chord nor musical notes.  I can sing on occasion, and possibly better than some commercial artists (but that's really saying more about the those artists than my own unschooled, untrained voice), but MY wee gift in the world if any is handling language.  Whether it's poetry or prose, or formats where the end product is something else, like a stage or film piece or some lyrics, I always enter the field primarily at the level of language and storytelling somehow.

Jodi wrote:
"The thing that really makes me mad, there are some in my family that stopped talking to me because I did not side with my sister, it honestly boggles my mind. I apologize for being crappy, but as I said, this is just a completely crappy week."

So, basically some people in your family care more about your sister than her offspring... I guess blood is not only thicker than water, some blood is obviously thicker than other blood too. Even when it's all family blood.
And if that wasn't clear enough. You absolutely made the right (though obviously hard) choice.  I'm reminded of Andrew Vachss' words in his brilliant children's book for adults, Another Chance to Get It Right (which I fervently recommend), "Biology does not make a man a father, nor a woman a mother. We are what we do."

Jodi also wrote:
"or Wonder Woman,        Hmmmm could I pull off the outfit??????"

Sure ya could, Jodi.   Now show us! :)

Tom wrote:
"Gah... we are all so GAY!"

Well, even when we're sad or angry, there's always this thread to keep us gay, so...
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Joakim Jahlmar
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Dammit!  Long post but still didn't manage to tip over the digits...
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Joakim Jahlmar
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And I obviously used my 3700th post for such a brief statement.  Ah, the irony...
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Whakeeeeeeeem! Happy 3700.

You made me smile first thing in the morning with your irony post...thanks for that.


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 The Mighty Wha-keem wrote:
The page count alone has sort of... held me
back a bit. First all the catching up, and then I bet it's gonna be a game of
catch up to keep up, if you know what I mean. ;)


Look, I don't know what kind of bizarre rules Hagerman may make you play
by in the Genesis thread, but in the Rush thread just jump in at any time.
No need to catch up at all.
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Hagerman's a tyrannical taskmaster.

Of course, some people are into that stuff..........

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