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Francesco Vanagolli
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Victor, according to what I read, Claremont wanted to kill professor Xavier and Wolverine. Wolverine had to return as a villain, resurrected by the Hand, several issues later. Plus some other stuff now I don't rerember (but there is an Italian site where they talked about all this. Very detailed. I'm going to re-read he article, then I can summarize it here).
Part of the resurrected Wolverine plot was re-used by Mark Millar during his one year run on WOLVERINE.
Edited to add: New Mutants reprinted in Essential format? That's something I want now! I haven't any issue of the original series.
Edited by Francesco Vanagolli on 21 June 2008 at 8:18am
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Brian Miller
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New Mutants reprinted in Essential format? That's something I want now! I haven't any issue of the original series.
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In about a week or so, I'm going to have these on eBay for cheap. I'll make a post with a link in the trading forum if you want me to.
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Larry Morris
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Victor, what Francesco said. Logan would die, be resurrected by the Hand, and become a villain. Jean was going to go undercover and work with him in trying to bring the real Logan back. Jean and Logan would form a connection that surpassed anything she had with Scott. Claremont didn't flat out say she'd wind up with Logan, but it's heavily implied.
Xavier would die fighting the Shadow King and I think Magneto would take over the school again. I don't like the idea of killing Xavier for good and I sure wouldn't have liked Jean winding up with Logan.
I remember Claremont saying that Harras argued what about the ongoing Wolverine series. Claremont said that they'd have to adjust their stories and Harras wouldn't go along with that. I think that was just one of a number of conflicts they had.
I didn't read Millar's story, but I have seen people mention that it was similar to Claremont's rejected story.
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Victor Rodgers
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I heard about the Wolverine in the Hand story. Which honestly I find cool. Killing the Professor not so cool.
I just read the Inferno isue where X-Factor fights the X-Men. I just loved it so much. Its amazing seeing Cyclops and the others back in X-Men. Made me realise how much I missed them all in the same book. For a guy who gets the rep of doing too much dialogue. Claremont writes great super brawls.
I like how they are delaying Madelyne vs Jean til the end. Im saving my biggest cat fight hiss for it. Yes I know thats immature.
Ive had my fill of Dazzler at this point. I really want her gone.
Edited by Victor .R. Rodgers on 21 June 2008 at 1:51pm
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Brian Miller
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Ive had my fill of Dazzler at this point. I really want her gone at this point.
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Well, I don't think she lasted much longer after INFERNO, but I don't know when exactly she left as my X-Reading was sporadic at best until Lee came aboard.
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Brian Miller
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I never really "got" Dazzler being in the X-Men. She just never seemed to fit.
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Victor Rodgers
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I don't know for sure. But it seems like it was Marvel's last attempt to make people care about her. She is just not interesting. How she kept a solo book for over 50 issues (I think thats right) is beyond me.
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Kevin Hagerman
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She is just not interesting. How she kept a solo book for over 50 issues (I think thats right) is beyond me.
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Wasn't Dazzler the first title to go to direct-only? I think that was the key to its "success*.
*Crap, it's only the 21st and I'm out of my month's suplly of ironic quotation marks. Gotta ease up on those suckers.
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Joel Tesch
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"I never really "got" Dazzler being in the X-Men. She just never seemed to fit. "
And neither did Longshot. That era led to me dropping the book for good. And from what I've seen I haven't really missed much.
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I kinda understood Longshot. He seemed, at least, to fit in somewhat. It seems to me Dazzler was just there for Longshot to have someone to bone while he was there.
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Kevin Hagerman
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Longshot and Mojo, ugh. CC needed to learn not EVERYTHING should be shoehorned into Professor Xavier's School for Gifted Children.
Edited by Kevin Hagerman on 21 June 2008 at 4:03pm
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Joel Tesch
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Exactly! At least Dazzler was a mutant. Longshot was a genetically engineered alien from another dimension. I hated Mojo, Spiral, etc. all being shoved into the X-universe.
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