Which is complete bull. It looks freaking fantastic in Moon Knight Essentials #2. The final fight against Marion's brother or something (I don't pay attention I'm horrible) in the ski chalet is one of the greatest reprints of anything ever.

I didn't like X vs FF at all. It was kind of too gloomy. The FF are smart and they do the right thing. The conflict seemed "wrong".

Peter wrote: ... Quote: Whats the hold up on Essential New Mutants. I've been wanting it for years now. Even if I have a decent bit of the series collected from 25 cent bins. From what I understand, Bill S.'s artwork won't reproduce well in the Essential format, so they're instead doing a series of color TPB reprints. ...

I'm betting it's all the color holds employed on the series. I looked at the "Uncanny X-Men"  Essentials at my shop to see how they would deal with color holds, and most of the time the holds were dropped. For instance, when Magma (from the "New Mutants") guest-stars in "Uncanny X-Men," the red, wavy lines that were color holds are dropped entirely leaving only her outline and facial features. "New Mutants" used the effect a lot.

I agree with Martin that it can't really be because of Bill Sinkievich's artwork. I don't see why his stuff wouldn't reproduce well in black and white. In fact, I'd think it would work better, given his use of light and shadow.

Does that mean another volume has the X Men vs Avengers mini?  I remember the FF series.  It was the one where Kitty was stuck in phase mode and Reed was certainly questioning himself in that series.

Claremont also had a run on the regular FF.  When they did the Heroes Return story, Doom was gone for a bit.  Claremont wrote his return in a series of one shots that eventually lead to a storyarc in the FF.

It was like him writing Magneto.  Doom isn't a villain in any one of those books, and we're taking over a good 10 issues of comics..   The FF storyline was Reed getting stuck in Doom's armor and starting to act more like him, that the armor was influencing his behavior.

Doom works with Sue, Johnny and Reed to get him out of the armor.  I've always thought that Claremont's Doom was too outwardly respectful of
Reed and the rest of the team. 

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You would think so. But FF vs Avengers is not included. But Marvel keeps adding stuff in different printings. They put X-Men vs Alpha Flight in 5 and God Loves Man Kills in 4. I feel like im being punished because I bought the books in their first printing.

My guess in this case is the FF limited series finished up the storyline of Kitty being injured.

I read a good chunk of his FF run. I think it was more oftenmore good than bad. But there moments of peopple being out of character. Like you said his Doom seems too respectful and nice. While Doom is honorble and what have you. He is also a nasty person. Thats bubbling right underneath the surface. Claremoint could never quite get the scary/nasty part of hi personality.

I wish he could have gotten a shot writing Iron Man or Avengers post Busiek. Because he did a great job writing them in FF. Especially Iron Man. He also did some great stuff with Iron Man vs the Brood in Contest of Champons 2

Victor wrote:
"They put X-Men vs Alpha Flight in 5 and God Loves Man Kills in 4. I feel like im being punished because I bought the books in their first printing."

Amen to that. Though I'm not sad to have got the republished HC of God Loves Man Kills.

I think in long running comics. There is a great risk of arch villians becoming more like wacky neighbors than truly bad guys. Almost like that wolf and sheepdog cartoon.

I think another problem I had with FF vs X-Men as Doom's plan seemed a bit weasaly for him.

Why did Claremont leave X-Men. Was he fired or did he quit? How are the books after he left?

What were some of those nixed storylines?