John ANGELO: The second image you posted ...isn't that from CHANDLER: RED TIDE? I have the digest version of that hard to find gem (it's in full color).

But I'd guess: YES. Miller's Sin City owes a bit to that story. (And probably lots more if we did the digging...)

The image from Chandler: Red Tide(76), that is considered the first graphic novel ever published, is always compared to frank millerīs art.  Donīt fool yourself on that. Red Tide was published years before miller did his first line. Miller also reference a lot of Jimīs work in his RONINīs work.

From Jim is the famous quote to jack Kirbyīs work some like "without Kirby wonīt be a comicsīs industry to tell a history about" and he was right.

Jim did some covers to a series called Hercules recently...very funny to see...

His innovative page layouts and use of 'special effects' always blow me away.

I find it interesting that he brought an illustrator's eye to comics (much like Adams) and it is because of this that he remains a true original for me.

Steranko's effing brilliant.

Pick up his 60's Marvel stuff and observe how his narrative visual style evolved in the short space of two years.

His stuff works even better in blawk and white and may well have inspired the style of Miller's Sin City.

One of the few artist that I've seen come and go in comics and which I would describe as BIGGER THAN THE FIELD.

I said: ...i have no doubt Jim Steranko is most likely as innovative as ever, just not in comics.

Chad said: I apologize, but this seems kind of like a back-handed compliment. Steranko doesn't have to be "innovative" in today's context...he was simply Steranko in 1968 within the comics field, and that was enough to establish him as a legend. He doesn't have to pander to today's comics "innovation", as he is an anachronism at this point, an artist who continues to carry on a tradition of actual COMICS art, instead of whatever is being called "art" today.

Chad, i have absolutely no idea why you take exception to my comment and call it a "back-handed compliment". in 1968, like you, i felt he totally rearranged the comics medium. isn't that innovation? i don't "follow" what he is up to nowadays, but from what he did to comics then, i assume that he is pushing the boundaries in whatever field or project he is doing now-a-days. again, isn't that innovation? i just don't know what he is doing - i know it's not comics - is this a wrong assumption of the man?

i won't play mind games but i have no idea what: Steranko doesn't have to be "innovative" in today's context...he was simply Steranko in 1968 within the comics field, and that was enough to establish him as a legend.- means.

i interpret that like: "the Beatles didn't change the music scene like today's music. in 1965, they were the Beatles and that was enough to make them great"

huh - <Ricky Ricardo accent> 'splain yourself, Lucy</>