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Mike O'Brien
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| Posted: 14 May 2008 at 10:00pm | IP Logged | 1
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Well - just a quick look at my out of date spreadsheet... and....(which hasn't been updated since... like... 2003) and as of then - the only JB projects he worked on were things JB wrote and someone else penciled - and he inked. JK4W stuff and the Darksied one-shot.
Maybe something since then, but I'd have to check... did he ink the Atom or Blood of the Demon or the GreenLantern holiday thing or something?
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Steven Cassidy
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I still think the only thing wrong here is the fact he's not CLEARLY giving credit to teh original artist.
People will buy what people will buy -- like Mr Byrne said -- there IS a market for this.
I've long contemplated having Joe Rubinstein reproduce one of the CAP pages -- but I guess here Joe would be reproducing his own inks, so it's a little different, I guess.
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Joe Zhang
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Might as well buy a light-box and trace whatever you want. Then pay yourself whatever this Kryssing fellow is charging.
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Mark Waldman
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Yep, a new dimension to the old what's a swipe debate. Sure looks like JB stuff to me. And look at the Buscema Conan, Thor, Adams Green Arrow, etc. Rat bastard! :P
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Brian Talley
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If he was trying to raise money for a kid with cancer, the corporate lawyers would be all over him.
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Thanos Kollias
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I think he inked some pages during the Amazing Spider-Man run.
This is ridiculous. And since it was asked, the problem lies in that he claims credit for the art. Yes, he may have put the lines on the paper, but it's clearly a rip-off. He could say it's "after JB" or better yet a reproduction of said panel/page/cover/etc.
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Vinny Valenti
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| Posted: 15 May 2008 at 12:32am | IP Logged | 7
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Mike O' wrote:
| Well - just a quick look at my out of date spreadsheet...
and....(which hasn't been updated since... like... 2003) and as of then
- the only JB projects he worked on were things JB wrote and someone
else penciled - and he inked. JK4W stuff and the Darksied one-shot.
Maybe something since then, but I'd have to check... did he ink the
Atom or Blood of the Demon or the GreenLantern holiday thing or
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For shame, Mike...he inked/finished ASM #9 over JB. He did a fairly decent job, I guess. But then again, I was so dissatisfied with Scott Hanna's finishes over most of the run that almost anyone else would look like roses. (Worth noting that I thought that Dan Green did a terrific job finishing up the run). But be that as it may, selling off traced copies of JB's work is nothing but shitty.
Edited by Vinny Valenti on 15 May 2008 at 12:33am
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Mike O'Brien
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| Posted: 15 May 2008 at 12:36am | IP Logged | 8
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ha ha! Well, goes to show - my list is more out of date than I thought! I have to update that thing one of these days!
And Scott Hanna was terrible. I also agree that Dan Green always compliments JB's pencils!
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Ed Deans
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Looking through much of what he's offering there are some cases where
he does identify the original as Adams, Kirby or John Buscema.
Unfortunately he doesn't do this consistently. That would help. His
"About" page mentioned specializing in recreations but it should be
made clear on the pieces like Bob Layton or JB do.
I'm frankly more concerned about not being able to tell these are hand-
made recreations from looking at them. I can clearly see if it was based
on a Kirby, Byrne, even Silvestri piece but are so exacting I cannot get a
sense of Kryssing's own inking style. Just as a comparison, Layton's
recreations always convey his line.
Kryssing appears to be an amazing copycat with near mechanical
precision.
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Armindo Macieira
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Geez... The man swipes Kirby, Byrne, Buscema, Paul Smith and some others that I can't identify. Does he expect people to believe this is his art? It doesn't even has a "style" of its own...
The big problem for me is that, probably, someone right now is buying this sh!t... and the prick thinks he's getting away with this...
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 15 May 2008 at 5:51am | IP Logged | 11
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JB, how is what Kryssing doing different from someone printing T-shirts
using a one of your commissioned images without permission?
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As I have noted before, it's not my permission that's needed. It's the
permission of the person who paid for the commission and, where
applicable, the copyright holder(s).
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Sean Hollenhors
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| Posted: 15 May 2008 at 6:33am | IP Logged | 12
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"Might as well buy a light-box and trace whatever you want"
Exactly. I just looked at his site...good lord...craziness.
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