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Robert Bradley Byrne Robotics Member
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Bendis. Millar. Straczynski.
'nuff said.
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Guests Byrne Robotics Visitor
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Posted: 20 March 2008 at 8:17am | IP Logged | 2
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I think I am the odd man out here when it comes to JMS. I like his stuff, especially his mini "Strange" on Dr. Strange ! Very well done. I even liked (cringe) his "Sins Past" story-line, most especially because of the tender moments between MJ & Peter. However, JMS' FF and Thor have been . . . . what's the phrase . . . . vague for me. Fascinating things are happening, but there is much I am unable to grasp and I wish the pacing were a tad bit faster.
Edited by Dan Walsh on 20 March 2008 at 8:17am
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Steve Swanson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 26 December 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 333
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Posted: 20 March 2008 at 8:54am | IP Logged | 3
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This is odd but I thought naming Peter David would get at least one person calling me a heretic. So many fans of his think (or used to think, don't run into too many fans of his anymore) that he was the best writer out there and the general comics public were philistines if they didn't support his work.
Nobody's going to defend Peter David? Or pile on?
Brian Michael Bendis is someone whose work I used to like but I thought he made one of the worst mistakes a writer can make when he did Avengers Disassembled: Making it incomprehensible. I had no idea what had happened, what was real, what wasn't, who was dead, was anybody dead, I hate it when in order to understand a comic I have to read an interview with the writer where he explains himself. Though I did like some issues of New Avengers I'm dropping the title because the last issue was everybody standing around and talking out their issues. Can't pay money for that any longer.
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 March 2008 at 9:01am | IP Logged | 4
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Technically I don't like him as an Avenger either. But I've found Bendis' portrayal of SM's wisecracks to be uproariously funny. Thus I've embraced Spidey as a team member ! |
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If they were the best and funniest stories ever written, I'd still not accept Spider-Man as an Avenger. It's just something I can't/won't wrap my mind around.
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Guests Byrne Robotics Visitor
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Posted: 20 March 2008 at 9:28am | IP Logged | 5
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I hate it when in order to understand a comic I have to read an interview with the writer where he explains himself.
I agree ! It seems to me that the plot of a comic should be self-contained and self-explanatory. Much of what happens in interviews give helpful nuances, while covering nuances that only the creator would know. Perhaps some of the newer writers should switch to novels or go back to writing TV & movie scripts? Wouldn't it be great to have people writing comics who can really write comics !
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Guests Byrne Robotics Visitor
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Posted: 20 March 2008 at 9:29am | IP Logged | 6
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If they were the best and funniest stories ever written, I'd still not accept Spider-Man as an Avenger. It's just something I can't/won't wrap my mind around.
Fair enough! I am the same with a teenage (Ultimate) FF !
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Aric Shapiro Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4349
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I don't get Pfeifer
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Leigh DJ Hunt Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 20 February 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1570
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Posted: 20 March 2008 at 9:46am | IP Logged | 8
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>I think I am the odd man out here when it comes to JMS
No, I like JMS too. I will admit though that some of his Spider-Man issues were pretty poor and his FF and so far Thor is a bit dull. Worst thing is, I've read a lot of his other work and I know he can be so much better.
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Ed Love Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 05 October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2712
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I get Peter David and I can understand why readers like him, though I'm
not sure he's as popular as he once was. I liked a good bit of his Hulk run
the first time out. And I liked Spiderman 2099. But, I wouldn't call myself
a fan, I've not read anything by him in ages. He's genuinely funny, but his
use of humor is like a defense mechanism, it often defuses the story
tension instead of going deeper and risking being real. And ultimately,
his lead characters are often too much alike, they all talk in the same
sarcastic/wry type of voice. Thus his Hulk is intelligent and sounds quite
a bit like his Aquaman. Back when he wrote several books a month, I
found that I could only really stand to get one a month. I'd enjoy that one,
but more than that and it just felt like overkill. Ultimately, it was Aquaman
that soured me on him, his version of the character I found completely
uninteresting and 180 degrees from the character I was familiar with and
enjoyed.
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 March 2008 at 9:51am | IP Logged | 10
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I liked PAD's HULK more or less, though I thought his humor got stale after a while.
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Martin Redmond Byrne Robotics Member
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Steve, I like Peter David. I'm crying tears, tears because of YOUR comment. I'll never read another one of his comics again now all because of this thread. <:(
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Darrell Hempel Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 03 March 2008 Location: United States Posts: 395
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I've decided to post without reading thru the thread first, so I am almost certain my thoughts have been echoed somewhere above - but here goes:
Morrison, Millar, Ennis - those who many consider the "avant garde" of comicbook writers. Morrison - nonsensical, "high concept" writing. Usually starts with a decent idea and keeps writing until it all falls apart. Millar - seems to take great glee in destroying comicbook icons; not to mention - stylistically (especially regarding dialogue) - NOT a good writer. Ennis - ultraviolence = kewl! Let's see how much I can get away with! Shocking is good!
Bendis - decompression has made current comics what Image made comics of the 1990s - but in reverse. Used to be - a comicbook was a good marriage of pictures and words. The 1990s were all pictures - current comics are mostly dialogue and floating heads.
rant over.
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