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Eric Russ
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I like Zeck's emphasis on character expressions.
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Eric Russ
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Not only would we never get tired of it (and some comics are this way), but
each read would be a brand new and positive experience every time !
Dan Walsh -
I feel this way about those John Byrne FF covers you posted. No matter now
many times I read them, they always have the an impact!
Edited by Eric Russ on 16 March 2008 at 8:51pm
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Robert White
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As others have pointed out, I also think the super-hero genre needs the perfect balance of cartoony realism. You have some otherwise exceptional artists working in the field today who simply lack the unique approach that, at least to me, makes super-hero stories work visually. As much as I like hardcore sci-fi and anime art with other genre's, it just doesn't work for me when it comes to super hero comics.
Even a paragon of realism like the great Neal Adams has just the right touch of cartoony looseness in his art that makes it work-and work very well--in the superhero genre.
My list of the best "super-hero" artists would be (to illustrate my preference on "balance"):
1. John Byrne
2. Neal Adams
3. Jack Kirby
4. John Buscema
5. George Perez
6. Alan Davis
7. John Romita
8. John Romita JR.
9. Sal Buscema
10. Jim Lee
I simply enjoy the way these greats draw the super-heroic form better than other artists. They just get it right.
Steve Ditko is one of my all-time favorite creators (in a greater sense) but outside of his brilliant work on Spider-Man and Dr. Strange, I haven't always enjoyed his pencils and figures. Same can be said for other greats like Steranko and Trimpe.
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CJ Grebb
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JRJr and Alan Davis are WAAAY low on that list for my tastes, but, otherwise pretty good!
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Eric -
Thanks for sharing the Mike Zeck shots. I enjoyed his stuff on Captain America (with Deathlok) and the Marvel Superheroes Secret Wars ! Also issue #100 & 101 of MOKF are very cool! Always love the "montage" (if that's the write word) with faces ! Ditko and Colan and Starlin used that a lot, as I am sure others did too. Leonardo's "Cloak" has just the right amount of mystery and foreboding.
BTW: I haven't been able to spend a lot of time reading through the "What's in your sketchbook" thread here at JBF. Have you posted your own stuff there?
Edited by Dan Walsh on 17 March 2008 at 7:44am
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Martin Redmond
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That's Rick Leonardi. He's one of my all time faves. I don't like his recent stuff as much because it seems to me he's kind of adapted his story telling for modern times so he draws alot less establishing shots. His early work is insanely perfect almost like a movie. Leonardi has a terrific eye for perspective. Terry Shoemaker was great at that too.
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Martin Redmond
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I know this is arrogant to say, but though I really like Mike Zeck's art, I think his comics aren't really as enticing as his pin ups and covers are. His drawings are awesome and I got nothing to complain about but I think his storytelling isn't as strong as his illustration skills. So I don't really like his comics. But I love his artwork still.
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Flavio Sapha
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My problem with Zeck is, basically, the huge chin he gives everybody. When he took over Captain America, I thought his Bernie was soooo ugly...
I know his technique is perfect and all, but, still...
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Edited by Flavio Sapha on 17 March 2008 at 9:41am
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Flavio Sapha
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Rick Leonardi is terrific.
I remember Wizard had a thing about dissing Cloak and Dagger that totally puzzled me...I always thought C&D were very, very cool, on the strength of his art, natchurally!
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Leigh DJ Hunt
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As much as I love looking at comic book art, I can't work out what people are saying. Are these supposed to be good examples of either cartoony or realistic artwork? Coz there seems to be both mixed in together here on the last few pages.
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Paulo Pereira
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That's less of a problem for me than the "twiggy" feet he tends to give his characters. I still generally like his work, though, especially this image--
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Adam Carson
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The LACK of realism is why JB comics are just about the only ones I wil buy now. I cannot stand cartoony looking animie inspired art that has RUINED comic bookd today.
With JB I once read of his work as being described as almost cinematic. ( I think it was in NEXT MEN)...I agree and love his work.
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