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Paulo Pereira
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I agree with Kevin, at least if it's done on the scale that Mack and Liefeld appear to have done it.  If it's an isolated instance, like the odd panel or what have you, I'm not going to get too bent out of shape over it.  Mack (and Liefeld, for that matter, probably) appears to be making a career of it and I have a considerable objection to that.

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Brian Talley
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That HULK stuff.......man. That's just wrong.
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Robert Bradley
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The Hulk swipes are by Jorge Lucas from Hulk vs. Fin Fang Foom in case anyone was wondering.

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Andrew Hess
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Wow, those Hulks are some pretty blatant swipes.

Who is the swiper?
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Sunnovagun swiped from my all-time favorite Hulk page, too!


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James Woodcock
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See this is what narks me off, What if I like a story but I don't like swipes? I like New Avengers but having to buy a comic full of swipes really annoys me.

If I did stuff at my work and passed it off as my own I wouldn't last long in my job. I wouldn't be defended by other people either.

If you don't know how to draw a character, don't sign up for the character's book. If you do sign up for the book, use referance material to learn how to draw the character (Costrume design etc). and then draw in your own style.

I would maybe give an artist an issue to find their feet but I would rather see hiccups or errors than the blatant stuff we've seen from the 90's. And thinking about it, that could be the problem - no one stopped it then (I know there were instances before then but that was when it became ridiculous), those artists are now in the position where they make decisions (Heck, they even encouraged things during the whole image 'fraw exactly like me' era) and the whole moral rot of 'well it's not really theft is it' is well and truely established as being allowed.

Sack them, sack them all.

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Greg Woronchak
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I think this whole swiping mentality simply reinforces my tremendous respect for the talented dudes (like JB <g>) who don't resort to it, because they don't need to.

The swipers come across looking like hacks, a label it'll be always tough to shake off.

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I am afraid this thread won´t die, ever...

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Flavio Sapha
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Oh, and the Fin Fang Fooms all look kinda familiar, too...
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Donald Miller
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Seems to me the Kirby Estate should be paid at least 50% of the artist fees for that work....

I am so frustrated by this, I finally see some old school style art work that makes me excited to read comics only to discover that that old school look, is in fact the same artwork STOLEN...

I know it is possible a good artist can channel a certain vibe or feel of a particular artist...

I could use our esteemed host as a stellar example of this.  when he creates a  Spider-Man that gives a Ditkoesque feel, or a New Gods that channels Kirby...you sense a connection to the original Artist without a dirty feeling of theft.  Oh and let's not forget his Adams/Aparro Batman

Why are proven thieves allowed to continue the practice?

Don
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