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Nathan Greno
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I just came across this...


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Todd Mcfarlane...






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But just by comparison, I'm surprised anyone can say Logan's hair looks silly
in the second pic compared to Miller's. In Miller's, it appears as a single
solid form with a bit of a ragged edge…

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The way it was pretty much portrayed in the comics of the time, you mean?
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AAH-RRR!!! Whose is that???
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When we look at the Liefeld and McFarlane swipes, we see what is, at heart, the basic problem with many swipes: they aren't being done because the artist has a particular problem to solve, and turns to an older, wiser hand who has already solved it. They are done because the artist thinks the original image is "cool" and wants to claim it for himself. Particularly true, this, in the case of the Liefeld sequence lifted from Miller's RONIN. In order to get to that double-page spread, Liefeld had to be "aiming" for the swipe. This isn't a case of "Oh, how can I draw this?" It's a case of "I want to use this as my work."
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 QUOTE:
AAH-RRR!!! Whose is that???

McFarlane.

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Man, those Hulk swipes must have appeared about six issues from the
Byrne originals! The Toddster has got nerve.
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…those Hulk swipes must have appeared about six issues from the
Byrne originals!

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One editor I worked with got into the habit of hiding my pencils when they
came in, after he noticed one or two swipes turning up in books that were
so late they actually appeared on the stands before my book came out!
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That Hulk panel, immediately above, demonstrates one of the small artistic failings it took me longer than any other to shake. Notice how, because I am right handed, all the rocks are leaning to the right?
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