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Trevor Giberson
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Posted: 19 February 2008 at 6:37pm | IP Logged | 1  

For the record, the asshole in question said that Byrne would fix the bands, but only with whiteout.
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Matthew McCallum
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Posted: 19 February 2008 at 6:38pm | IP Logged | 2  

Greg Elmore wrote: "Isn't the whole idea of doing commissions of copyrighted characters in that strange "gray area" of legality? So one guy steals from another guy who's kinda on the "gray" side."

It's not a gray area at all, Greg. Under trademark law, you can use trademarked material provided it is properly referenced to the trademark holder and used in a manner that respects the trademark. The legal issue concerns more the volume and type of use.

If the artist started to make lithographs of one drawing of Superman, or produced an entire comic book featuring Superman and started to sell multiple copies, then there would definitely be an issue of trademark infringement and he could expect a letter from the Time Warner attorneys in short order. Similarly, if the artist was producing work that might hurt the value of the trademarked property -- say, nude pictures of Superman -- he should expect to be shut down rather quickly.

If the commission industry got to be profitable enough, I would expect that the major trademark holders would develop a license system so that license holders could exclusively produce works featuring the trademarked characters. But without a significant profit potential, the administration and enforcement of such an effort would be a challenge.



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Eric Smearman
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Posted: 19 February 2008 at 6:41pm | IP Logged | 3  

It is Castrillo.

Disappointing.

Q for JB: Have you ever done a commission and the customer requested that it not be made public?



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Mike Murray
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Posted: 19 February 2008 at 6:50pm | IP Logged | 4  

The description actually uses the phrase "MAC fixed the mistakes."  The incredible arrogance...
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Eric White
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Posted: 19 February 2008 at 6:51pm | IP Logged | 5  

I'm confused. Pat Ditton was banned twice here?
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Joe Hollon
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Posted: 19 February 2008 at 6:54pm | IP Logged | 6  

I'm confused on that too Eric.  I did notice just yesterday (I think) he was being a total jerk in one of the commission threads.  To the point I almost jumped in and called him on it.  Oh well.
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Mike Murray
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Posted: 19 February 2008 at 7:03pm | IP Logged | 7  

Hmm, that is confusing.  The commission was created in mid-2007.  Well, on his gallery page he intimates that he's still thinking of buying the original commission from JB.  Perhaps he had been considering it for the past nine months, and has now decided against it because of being recently banned on the JBF.  There's no mention of his banning on his gallery page, but apparently he's drawing that connection over on another forum right now. 

Gee, it's almost enough to make me think he was never going to man up and pay for the work he ordered, but now he's using his banning as a way to make it seem as though enforcing The Rules has cost JB a customer!
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Teod Tomlinson
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Posted: 19 February 2008 at 7:07pm | IP Logged | 8  

Sleazy theft. Punk move. 
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Flavio Sapha
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Posted: 19 February 2008 at 7:11pm | IP Logged | 9  

Hard to believe that that was refused,
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D00D! I was sure that was one of the most coveted pieces of all! If put on
auction, bidders would simply tear each other apart!

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Troy Nunis
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Posted: 19 February 2008 at 7:12pm | IP Logged | 10  

That's kinda why i wondered if "MAC" knew this was an unpaid commision, to do a swipe is one thing, but to knowingly inable this jerk into what is basically stealing JB's time, effort and work is another step or three down. 
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Flavio Sapha
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Posted: 19 February 2008 at 7:13pm | IP Logged | 11  

I am sorry to say this, but:

between this swipe episode and the rumour of illegal manufacturing of
t-shirts, I'd suggest to JB to reduce the resolution of the commission
images made available online.
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Fred J Chamberlain
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Posted: 19 February 2008 at 7:18pm | IP Logged | 12  

Weird... the piece is no longer available for viewing.... hmmmm
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