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Michael Arndt
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The JBF without commissions is unthinkable ---- Aric
I agree. I always felt that this forum was like a art museum. We get to see art from JB (and others) that you just would never see anywhere else.
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Scott Nickel
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Michael said:
Depends on the contract between the architect and the home buyer. Also, to
use your analogy, you'd still have the house you built and could sell it to
someone else. (And I hope an architect wouldn’t build a house without
getting SOME money up front)
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Designing a house is not building a house.
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Exactly. But JB has the physical artwork -- the house -- to use the architect analogy. Thus the problem with the analogy.
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Michael Roberts
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Exactly. But JB has the physical artwork -- the house -- to use the
architect analogy. Thus the problem with the analogy.
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He said:
QUOTE:
This is the equivalent of hiring an architect to design a house for
you, refusing to pay for his design, then giving a copy of that design to
another architect, who adds a few flourishes of his own and calls it
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The physical artwork in this analogy would be plans to a house, not the
house itself.
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Scott Nickel
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The physical artwork in this analogy would be plans to a house, not the
house itself.
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And how does that work exactly? Is someone building a Marvels statue?
Edited by Scott Nickel on 20 February 2008 at 9:44am
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Bradley Dean
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Exactly. But JB has the physical artwork -- the house -- to use the architect analogy. Thus the problem with the analogy.
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Gosh, somtimes we like to split hairs around here don't we. An analogy by definition is a similarity between two things, it is not an exact science.
Edited by Bradley Dean on 20 February 2008 at 9:45am
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Michael Roberts
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How does what work?
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John Byrne
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Here we have examples of an artist doing cover recreations of pieces he
never worked on.
Gray area? Illegal? Fair game?
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How about "Owes the original artist a design fee"?
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John Byrne
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The physical artwork in this analogy would be plans to a house, not the
house itself.
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And how does that work exactly? Is someone building a Marvels statue?
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You're not this stupid. Stop pretending to be.
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Anthony castrillo
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Ok I read the thread, yes I am at fault, yes im an asshole, dickhead,
whatever you think.
For the record I drew the piece and was paid, I did not have artists ethics
rule book out and missed the part on intellectual property and proper
etiquette.
As i pointed out in a another thread, i made sure that the art was
tagged and signed as MY recreation and a duplicateo of JBs original, if
you see the parts that werent
cropped you would know that.
And i'd like to add that Mr.Byrne has been a great influence and has been
and still is an idol of mine,if i in any way have i offended him personally
i hope he accepts my sincerest apologies.
Oh and if anyone wants to call me something without knowing all the
facts please do it to my face.:)
mac
Edited by Anthony castrillo on 20 February 2008 at 9:55am
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Scott Nickel
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Gosh, somtimes we like to split hairs around here don't we. An analogy by definition is a similarity between two things, it is not an exact science.
>>Very true. But they're not similar enough. Ask yourself what is the end product in each case?
What’s the end product in the architect scenario?
What's the end product in the Marvels commission scenario?
And who still holds physical property?
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Scott Nickel
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JB said:
How about "Owes the original artist a design fee"?
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I agree wholeheartedly. But clearly that's not being done. I think fees should be paid to copyright holders, too. But that's not being done either.
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Scott Nickel
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And how does that work exactly? Is someone building a Marvels statue?
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You're not this stupid. Stop pretending to be.
>>>Okay, I'll bite. How stupid am I?
>>>Sorry if my original post was unclear. I was making a joke about the statues.
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