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Aaron Smith
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Welcome to the 90s, Chad.
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Chad Carter
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My favorite Annual of all time...which is amazing, as I actually LIKED Johnny Storm in this ish. This was the one comic that made me believe Johnny could have had his own series:
PLUS the Thing vs the Hulk reprint, the classic 25/26? Man, that may be the most perfect comic ever.
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William Lukash
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The thing with the '90s avengers...it had really good art (Buscema, Epting, Palmer) and good writing for the most part, but it was like somebody from up above made the heroes have the dumbest costumes ever. The Black Knight had a leather jacket?
I remember one story in particular where the Black Knight killed the Supreme Intellect. There was a big split in the Avengers between Caps faction and BK's faction over killing as a "solution" to a problem. Turns out BK's sword was influencing him...something like that.
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Shaun Crowell
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This is one of my favorite annuals:
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Frank Balkin
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DC's Annuals in the 60s were all Reprints. For most of the 70s, DC didn't do "Annuals." In 1977 they started releasing "Specials" and "Spectaculars" which were basically the same thing. Specials were 34 story pages for 50, then 60 cents, and Spectaculars were 64 story pages for a buck. Some good stuff in there - the 1977 SUPERMAN SPECTACULAR featured a great full length Superman story co-written by then regular writers Marty Pasko and Cary Bates. There was a BRAVE AND THE BOLD special around then that I liked that teamed Batman with Sgt Rock, Deadman, and Sherlock Holmes. The 1978 FLASH SPECTACULAR was reprinted in the GREATEST FLASH STORIES EVER TOLD hardback last year or the year before and included art by (among others) Garcia-Lopez.
Then these books faded away around the time of the DC Implosion in June 1978. In 1981 or 82 DC brought back Annuals, now all-new. I think the first one may have been the Levitz-Giffen LEGION ANNUAL 1 that introduced Jacques Focart, Invisible Kid.
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Rick Senger
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Frank, you nailed my opinion, which is that with the exception of some isolated good stuff in the early 80s, the DC Implosion of the late 70s was kind of the beginning of the end of the golden age of the Annual and substantial giant books in general. I suspect some of my perceptions may be colored by the fact that I was 13 in 1978 so that was naturally a peak year for my comic interests in general, but I still believe this was near the end of the era where annuals were not about hype or promotion or die cut or gatefold or multi-variations or bagged covers. The DC's Dollar Comic experiment where they ran basically all new material in these giants was a glorious last burst of creativity and fun, though I have a feeling the Dollar Comics must have sold sporadically because they seemed to largely dry up within about a year. Anyway, I noticed a significant drop in continuity, good creative teams and that all important "fun" factor on annuals that had previously been such a joy.
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Guests
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Gene Best re: Starlin's Avengers Annual #7 with Thanos & Adam Warlock -
One of my favorites too!
Note: One of the nice things about the annuals from the 60's (I'm thinking mostly of the FF) is that they were written and drawn by the same folks (Lee/Kirby/Sinnott) who did the monthly book. Continuity worked back then! And a reader got quality for their money ! Although I like some of the newer/current annuals (such as Bendis' New Avengers Annual #1), sometimes it seems that post 60's annuals (and especially those from the 90's) didn't have the same "bang for their buck" as their predecessors!
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Kurt Anderson
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Didn't Marvel go the All-New Annual route because the characters were (for the most part) too new to have older stories?
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***JT Molloy
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It doesn't get much better than Amazing Spider-Man Annual 1 does it? Betty
Brant and Aunt May captured by The Sinister Six!
Not to mention the 6 splash pages by Ditko of Spidey vs. each of them.
While on the subject of 'bigger' stories too, I really dug the "Unlimited" series
of the 90's. They read like annuals but 4 times a year!
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Brad Hague
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I miss Stan's awesome and amazing ability to allocate astonishing alliteration.
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***JT Molloy
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I additionally appreciate the aforementioned adage!
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Jay Matthews
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I liked that annual Frank Miller did for Spider-man in 1980. The one with Dr. Strange and a new character called Karma. Actually, I think maybe it was a Marvel Team-Up Annual and the FF were in it.
I may be combining two in my mind.
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