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Brian Hunt
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This is the most dramatic issue of any comic that I have ever read. I both love it and hate it at the same time. Guardian was my favorite character in comics at the time by a wide margin. The story telling and set up were superb. I've studied this issue and the one that preceded it so much that they are the most read books in my 8,000+ collection.
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Jim Lynch
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I don' thave anything profound to say but i just want to add on this was a huge book for me. I can still remember 15 year old Jim had subscribed to AF and #11 was the first issue I received in the mail, and its last page had the teaser about someone dying. i was so sure it was Snowbird...
oh crap is that a spoiler?
anyway when the death did happen I remember actually having something of a physical reaction to it. I was so angry, about a comic book! But to this day it's still one of my absolute favorites. In fact, my original copy has been read so many times it literally fell apart.
So thanks JB, for one of the best books I've ever read.
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Brad Brickley
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I remember being totally blown away. Looking back I realize that this was one of the first instances of getting something different from what was expected.
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Pat Ditton
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...the end of good comics began with this issue.
Mac was the glue that held it all together...
If only we knew then...
(only joshin' --- my favorite comics of all time -- I read that one more than UXM 137 and MOS 1 combined)
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Kevin Hagerman
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Excellent comments. Another case of the dead should stay dead, to keep from detracting from the original.
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George Edwards
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AF # 12- brilliant issue- a powerful thrill ride, very emotional, action packed and one of the most unexpected endings--- it's one of my all-time favorites. Thanks JB
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Victor Rodgers
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I read this in 96 when I was 15. Luckily I had no idea who would die. The only one I knew who was definately safe was Guardian. He was way too cool to die.
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Darren Taylor
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There are comics that come along and they move you powerfully, profoundly. So much so that they leave an indelible mark on your psyche. Gwen's death springs to mind, this was slightly before my time. Guardian's story, the build up to it, and then the ensuing aftermath, firmly place Issue # 12 of AF at the pinacle in my head. It firmly sculpted and manipulated the blossoming creative aspects of my mind, as if JB had reached in to my skull and reshuffled the matter like some enkephalical Rubik's Cube.
John's artwork alone, had me coming back for more and more upto Issue twelve. Issue twelve made me realise that there was a whole lot more going on than drawing pretty pictures.
From that day to this, for me,every comic is in some way or another measured against AF # 12.
Wonderful.
Edited by Darren Taylor on 21 December 2007 at 9:58am
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Eric Lund
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Alpha Flight was doomed after this point on...
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Darren Taylor
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I'll parry this thrust Eric...
If JB had continued drawing AF, it'd still be being bought, regadless of the outcome of issue 12.
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John Byrne
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jb, was wondering the process when the series came out. seems like now a days
proposals are put in, but with the fan fare behind alpha after the xmen appearances did
marvel approach you to do this series?
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As "old timers" 'round here know, I had no interest or desire to do an ALPHA FLIGHT
series. They existed in my mind only as characters who could survive a fight with the
X-Men. (Except Guardian and Snowbird, who were fan characters. But, still...) So it was
Marvel that pushed me into doing the series. In the end, I suppose I did it because I
didn't want anybody else to.
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John Byrne
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Alpha Flight was doomed after this point on...
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118 issues past this point. Lot of books nowadays would like to be doomed!
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