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Marc Baptiste
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That last redraw comparison is just sad.
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Gerry Turnbull
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im depressed.at least ive still the originals to enjoy.
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Gerry Turnbull
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positively the last one
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 24 December 2007 at 5:34pm | IP Logged | 4
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…sigh…
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Jason Fliegel
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| Posted: 24 December 2007 at 6:40pm | IP Logged | 5
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The Batman by Neal Adams HCs also reprint this [Batman: Stacked Cards, a Power Records record-and-comic combo], my very first Batman comic, from 1975, and I still have it!
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Ted, my very first Batman comic was the other Power Records set Neal Adams did -- Robin Meets Man-Bat! I didn't realize until last year that these weren't reprints of contemporary Batman comics, but stories that were written specifically for the record sets. Boy, those sets sure were great, weren't they?
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Andrew Hess
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wow, some of those re-draws are completely unnecessary.
(. . . and I'm sure it could be argued that NONE of them are necessary . . .)
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Andy Mokler
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Dare I suggest that NA's old stuff was better? That last comparison of the Superman/Jimmy panels certainly lends credence to the idea.
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Jason Fliegel
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The redraws look just fine to me (although the originals do too). But I don't think it's fair to call the redraws Adams's "new stuff," as he was just touching the panels up with relatively minor alterations, not re-composing the pages from scratch. I assume 21st Century Neal Adams would do those pages completely differently from 1970s Neal Adams, not mostly the same with minor differences.
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Troy Nunis
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in some cases it seems Mr. Adams has redrawn the details within the previously existing outline - and things still don't fit right. in other instances where he's started more from scratch and clearly drawn a whole new head, things look much better.
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John Byrne
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I don't think it's fair to call the redraws Adams's "new stuff," as he was just
touching the panels up with relatively minor alterations, not re-composing
the pages from scratch.
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Whether you like it or hate it or land somewhere in the middle, when
characters end up with completely different faces, that's "new stuff". It
doesn't even take side-by-side comparisons to see that Neal's current
version of Superman, to pick one, is a different "model" from the older
version.
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Ted Pugliese
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Yes they were, Jason.
Yes they were...
...sigh...
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Flavio Sapha
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Just don't tell me Adams pulled this in the GL/GA HC too...?
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