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Paulo Pereira
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| X-23 is Wolverine's clone. Never was his daughter as far as I know. She was originally created for the X-MEN: EVOLUTION cartoon. |
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Ah, thanks for the info. I thought I remembered something about her being his daughter in Alan Davis's X-Men run (in '05).
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Michael Roberts
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X-23 is Wolverine's clone. Never was his daughter as far as I know. She was
originally created for the X-MEN: EVOLUTION cartoon.
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On the cartoon, she was definitely a clone. In the comics, I think the woman
who created her used some of her own genetic material with Wolverine's, so
she's not quite a clone.
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John Byrne
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"She" would be "not quite a clone" in any case -- unless there's something
about Logan we don't know!
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Paulo Pereira
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True. But whatever the term for her is, she's superfluous. Having retractable claws in her feet doesn't exactly justify her existence.
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John Byrne
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Having retractable claws in her feet…
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Greg Woronchak
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But what about.... Wolverine's son?
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Paulo Pereira
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His son? What's that all about?
And to gripe about a previous point, whose bright idea was it to make Sabertooth and X-Man? Why not make Blastaar one of the FF while you're at it?
Edited by Paulo Pereira on 10 December 2007 at 12:05pm
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Donald Miller
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Oh Man,
Don't even get me started on the Goodification of characters that are essentially evil.
Don
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Paulo Pereira
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True, there was a precedent with Magneto, but damn, it wasn't a good precedent.
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Adam Hutchinson
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Sabretooth wasn't "goodified" in X-Men recently. He was blackmailed into helping the X-Men on a specific mission via nano-sentinels and tried to kill the X-Men as soon as he was able to. In fact, Mike Carey specifically stated he wasn't interested in showing Sabretooth in any sort of heroic light or even to redeem him.
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Donald Miller
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However the story ultimately turned out....the idea of heroes working with a carachter as out and out evil as Sabretooth, or any of a number of examples, is just plain bad writing.
Don
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Pascal LISE
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(Without getting any better, this same artist went on to become a fan
fave, so what does that tell us?)
McFarlane, Liefield ?
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