<<Oh yeah and whoever said Jean was bad for ripping the White Queen a new a hole once she caught Emmwhore Frost torturing Storm. I'm glad Jean put that no good ho back to her place. You mess up that skanky piece of trash's face good Jeannie. Kill! kill! kill!!!! >:D >>

Yeah, beautiful.  Let's have Jean stoop to Emma's level.
Things like what she did to Emma are one of the reasons I don't prefer Jean as Phoenix.  Just as I hated what Morrison had her do to Emma. I'm not looking for moral ambiguity from Jean Grey.  That's not what made Jean Grey my favorite X woman.
  
BTW, Morrison's Emma was a lot of things(none of which I particularly liked), but she wasn't a pussy.
Emma did what she wanted when she wanted, with no apologies.  Scott is another matter.  Call Morrison's Cyclops a pussy to your heart's content. 

Another BTW.  Emma's transformation to the hero side was not a gradual one.  UXM 281 through her joining Gen X is not a 4 year journey towards redemption.  She's put in a coma in UXM 281 and comes out 30-35 issues later.  4-5 issues after that she's beng offered the chance to run the school that the Gen X students attended.

NOW, she has regrets and genuine feelings for
the students she lost in UXM 281.  Feelings I certainly never saw in her recurring New Mutants appearances.  They were pawns/soldiers in training that were to eventually be used as the Hellfire Club needed.   She was a more than willing accomplice with Shaw.

I'm not going to be a hypocrite, though.  I really grew to like Claremont's Magneto.  However, if someone asks me if I can reconcile it in any way at all with Lee's,, Thomas', or even Claremont/Byrne's, I can't justifiably.  There is not a shred of good in that character.

I guess someone is more accepting if they like the basic story.  Does one like the Xavier/Jean backstory that Claremont added on?  You can't reconcile it with Uncanny 1.  Jean has clearly never been in that house before and she and Xavier barely know each other.  
It's just the two of them talking, there is noone to pretend for.  But if you like the actual stories, you're more inclined to overlook the contradictions.

I've never cared enough about Emma to be overly offended by her association with the X Men.  My antipathy towards her is over what was done to Scott's character.  Right now, seeing her anywhere is an immediate reminder of that.  That hasn't changed in the several years that Morrison has been gone.  I doubt it ever will.  Also, there is a large difference between being a teacher in an X Men satellite book and essentially becoming the poster woman for the X Men.  Which is what pretty much what happened to Emma.

Also, Whedon uses her because Whedon likes her.  I've seen several interviews where he expressed his love fr Morrison's X Men.  He's no more beholden to the 
Morrison than Morrison was to previous writers.
Scott/Emma is still in place because he likes it.  Emma is still there because he likes it.  Cat Beast is still there because he likes it.

<<The books becomes all shades of grey -- and pretty muddy grey at that!

That sounds like a perfect description for most of today's books. Rather than focus on true heroism (which is apparently uninteresting), anti-heroes run around acting inconsistent, based on the needs of a given plot.

Sigh.>>


It's not the anti-heroes I have a problem with.  It's too many shades of grey in characters that I don't think have had them traditionally.  For me, some of these stories taint the characters too much.   

Puppies.  Always gotta involve puppies to be irredeemable.

At one point Magneto was turned into a an infant by the High Evolutionary presumably so he wouldn't be such an asshole the second time around. This is a fairly natural means of allowing the plot to moderate his character for the "benefi"t of the book.

You could say that he was aged prematurely by super science after being reacquired by the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants and as much of his mind as possible was reconstructed by Xavier (or someone else). That sudden rejuvenation and subsequent artificial re-aging and reprogramming to attempt to get him back where he was could be a decent explanantion for the sudden shift in character and partial reform.

Another might be to suggest that he is a crazy and has a more evil persona that takes control of him for long periods of time(somehwat like Xavier's "Entity" persona and his never actually born evil mutant female twin) or he encountered some really old supernatural entity when he raised that ancient undersea city that resulted in his becoming less evil and more Grey.

It seemes like Marvel did not happen upon these or similar ideas as an acceptable explanation for the difference between Magneto 1 and Magneto 2 and just has him flip flopping around depending on who writes him and later deciding that he was he was impersonated when he appeared to become an insane drug addict and got his head chopped off.

He was reaged in the Claremont/Cockrum issues.  He was a rat bastard there as well as under you and Claremont.  What you guys had him do was pretty sadistic if you ask me.  Also, it wasn't the High Evolutionary who did it.  Why am I blanking on who deaged him?  Alpha something.  He was reaged by Erik The Red.  UXM 150 was where his redemption began, IMO.