Posted: 27 October 2007 at 1:21pm | IP Logged | 3
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My deal is that strength and fighting ability are disparate, except of course when it comes to knock-out power.
Bench-pressing and knock-out power, IMO, are connected, but not as much as people think. Strength is an incredient of knock-out power, not the prime source, something thugs like Mike Tyson learn as they start to deteriorate physically, in the real world. A different case in comics, most times.
Spider-Man is a unique case, since his "natural" spider agility enhances his knock-out power. It's technique from the hybrid of human/arachnid combined with super-strength that makes him unique.
Super strong fist-fighters like Hercules, Power Man, Ben Grimm, the Hulk, Hourman, Sub-Mariner, Earth-2 Superman, lack technique but use raw force that doesn't seem to deteriorate, as its source is limitless apparently.
Excellent technicians like Batman, Captain America, Iron Fist, Wildcat, Manhunter, Black Canary, all have superior knock-out power while lacking super strength...yet I can argue that any one of them can defeat a low-mid-level superhuman with their superior technique.
Then there's all kinds of superhumans who aren't known for pugilism, technique-wise, but have knock-out experience if not acumen, like the Vision, Wonder Man, Thor, Earth 1 Superman, She-Hulk, Martian Manhunter. They have power and style over technique, coupled with other aspects of their wide range of raw force, like molecular control and heat vision and so on.
So, what I mean is I think it's more important for writers to understand the character's fighting prowess more than their strength level, especially considering characters in the "superhuman" category. Other factors, like the Hulk's limitless supply of energy from rage, are what's most important when detailing strength vs strength. Straight up, I will always believe Ben Grimm could knock out the Hulk, if the Hulk did not have access to limitless energy. But since the Hulk does, unless this aspect is removed by the story, then Ben will always be defeated. ANYone will be defeated, in the long run, by the "engine" of the Hulk.
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