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David Ferguson
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I like mutants is that they have no origin, they just get powers
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Stan's reason for creating them. He didn't have to come up with some radioactive chemical type origin. They were just born that way.
On Nightcrawler: possibly the worst X-men story ever.
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Brian Miller
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Wolverine, at least, had "only" his healing factor -- until "mutant healing
factor" became everybody's toy.
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When did his "super-senses" come into play?
RE: Wolverine and Sabretooth being Roman wolf-people: if this is what Loeb has come up with, I shall probably never buy another book of his ever. I mean, he decides Origin is no good and he comes up with this?!? Jesus.
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Lance Hill
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When was Wolverine given an enhanced sense of smell?
EDIT: Never mind, had the reply window open too long and got beaten to it.
Edited by Lance Hill on 06 October 2007 at 9:04am
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Robert White
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I've never understood the creative impulse that has lead creators to muddy the waters in regards to the back story's of characters like Wolverine and Nightcrawler. We obviously have several different camps regarding Wolverine's origin, so why not let it alone and focus on broadening his characterization and expanding on--without drastically changing--what we already know about the character? It's just so obvious to me that Wolverine being the one superhero without a concrete "origin" is just so...right.
It's almost universally accepted that JB and Walt Simonson improved on the characterizations, without actually altering said characterizations, of the FF, Doom, Galactus, Thor, Sif, Balder, Loki, the Warrior's Three, etc, etc.
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Brian Miller
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Stan's reason for creating them. He didn't have to come up with some radioactive chemical type origin.
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But, didn't he give Xavier a radioactive type origin? Wasn't Charles's parents working on atomic bomb testing or somesuch, thus open to radioactivity? That's how I remember him explaining it, anyhow.
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David Kingsley Kingsley
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As a tangent from one of JB's comments: When did Don Blake recoil in horror from Doom's uncloaked face? I've never heard of this and would love to check this comic book out.
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Michael Andrew Gonoude
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Brian Miller: "But, didn't he give Xavier a radioactive type origin? Wasn't Charles's parents working on atomic bomb testing or somesuch, thus open to radioactivity? That's how I remember him explaining it, anyhow."
Wasn't Hank McCoy's father exposed to radiation, as well, and wasn't that offered as an explanation for Hank's mutation? I seem to vaguely recall such a back-up "origin" story from the mid-to-late '60's...
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Brian Miller
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Yeah, I always got the impression that mutants' existence was due to some sort of exposure to radiation. While maybe not as specific as a radioactive spider bite or being in the vicinity of an exploding Gamma Bomb, the origins would still be a radioactive origin.
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Robbie Parry
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QUOTE:
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That would be The Mighty Thor #182 and #183, David. Well worth checking out, Doom was a good opponent for Thor.
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Robert White
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Mutants were brought about by the genetic experiments of the Celestials during the same time that they created the Eternals and the Deviants, about "a million years ago."
Unless this has been retconned without my knowledge...
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John Byrne
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Well, given that that, in itself, was a major retcon. . .
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John Byrne
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It's almost universally accepted that JB and Walt Simonson improved on the
characterizations, without actually altering said characterizations, of the FF,
Doom, Galactus, Thor, Sif, Balder, Loki, the Warrior's Three, etc, etc.
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I have it on good authority that the Vl'Axx'Iarans, of Snaral'xxa IV, have
serious issues with Walt's portrayal of Sif.
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