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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 28 July 2004 Location: United States Posts: 31229
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 6:46pm | IP Logged | 1
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I frickin' love the inks from this period.
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 17700
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 6:55pm | IP Logged | 2
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Time to reread all of my AF issues...
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Chris Durnell Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 26 February 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1234
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 7:00pm | IP Logged | 3
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I loved Alpha Flight. I started collecting comics late in JB's run - my first AF issue was #23, but this was one of my favorite series. When I finally had built up some cash and discovered the direct market and mail ordered back issues, collecting all the JB AF issues was my first real "collecting" decision (collecting all of the Stern and DeFalco Hobgoblin issues was a close second).
One of the things I loved about AF was that it was really building its own mythos - and not relying on second string villains. It also embraced what was unique about itself - Canada - and had the team going all over the country. That its members actually lived throughout the widespread country also gave it an epic sort of feel that even the Avengers didn't have - the team unfortunately being too often limited to the New York area.
And I love JB's art during this period despite his self-admitted "limitations." While it is possible for a lack of backgrounds to be too noticeable, I agree with JB and others already on this thread that "needless" backgrounds clutter the picture and distract from the storytelling. Let the eye focus on where it needs to be. Proper use of color and dynamic storytelling will "cover" for that.
Very much looking forward to the new few weeks of this reading club.
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Greg Reeves Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 06 February 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1396
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 7:37pm | IP Logged | 4
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Proud to say I started this series from issue #1. I wasn't reading comics yet when they first appeared in X-Men, but I had to have this when I saw the cover. I'm going to say it: JB has the best costume design of any comic creator beyond the first generation guys. The simplicity-yet-complexity of the twins' outfits, and the later Nemesis and Master designs are timeless. The Great Beast storylines were great; we non-Canadians were getting insight into a mythology we were unfamilar with. Judd comes off as such a "sawed-off little punk" here, but grows into a noble personality that rivals Logan. Can't wait to discuss the Marrina stuff in #2!
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Brad Hague Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1717
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 7:38pm | IP Logged | 5
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I LOVE love LOVE John Byrne's Alpha Flight. It came at the right time for me. For me, FF was starting to peak around here (with my highlight being FF 260 to about 262) and I thought to myself that maybe AF was taking the main priority for the master. After all, JB was taking both full chores as well as with scriping The Thing. And, I think the Super Boxers graphic novel, or something like that.
I was shocked and dismayed to find out later that Mr. Byrne did not hold AF in as high regard as us Alpha Flight fans but that AF was rather thrust on him by the powers that be.
This is one time where I agree with the powers that were. I am so glad that JB did the series. Great memories there.
But I don't agree with what the powers that were did afterward. I also remember there being a big deal made by someone (Shooter?) that this was the biggest paycheck to a comic artist/writer and if I recall correctly, Shooter's soapbox started making snide remarks about how big Byrne's house was (like it was bigger than Doom's castle or something). I remember thinking to myself that Shooter saying such things wasn't that professional. And this from a 14 or 15 year old teenager. Wow... I really got sidetracked there. Sorry.
Great issue! I hope more are posted.
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Brad Hague Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1717
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 7:46pm | IP Logged | 6
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And I never understood the "criticism" of people complaining about backgrounds.
The art is perfect as it is. As JB clearly showed, it was nothing new as Kirby was doing it 20 years earlier. If I recall, it was popular throught many golden age books.
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Bill Catellier Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 September 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3225
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 8:09pm | IP Logged | 7
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I only had a few of JB's Alpha Flight run, issues in the mid 20's as I recall. Lucky for me I was able to fill in the rest of his run by sorting though bins at a convention, 2/$1. GREAT GREAT value!!
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Roger A Ott II Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 29 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 5371
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 9:43pm | IP Logged | 8
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I didn't buy an issue of Alpha Flight until almost a year and a half after the debut, and I didn't start reading regularly until just a few issue before JB left. It was 1992 when I finally got a hold of a copy of AF #1, and discovered what I'd missed.
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Eric Russ Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 13 March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 2006
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 10:10pm | IP Logged | 9
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This was a great issue. Unfortunately I could never find a stand that sold
them (or had them when I looked for them) in my immediate area, so I
was fortunate to get the first issue issue 3, 5, 11, 13 and 17.
I was able to finally locate a stand that sold them regularly with issue 23
on. Fortunately there was a "Forbidden Planet" by my old school where I
picked up the back issues.
I was always facinated with shows like "In Search of..." and their
speculations/myths on Bigfoot/Yeti creatures on the North American
continent. It was great to see a book that feature a group of characters in
a fascinating setting,
Also what was great is that it was a team book that showed a very
uncanny team in regards to the personal and working relationships
toward one another.
Great writing b/c I never got the feeling that Wolverine "needs" to be in
this or that a character had to be him.
Great stuff.
Edited by Eric Russ on 04 October 2007 at 10:11pm
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Hunter McFalls Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 08 January 2007 Location: United States Posts: 681
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 11:45pm | IP Logged | 10
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I love how the Page 1 splash evokes emotion.
Looking through the ceiling into the empty room with the cables lying about. The slight bowed head of guardian. The size of the figure. I think most artists might try a closer shot to show him upset but JB takes it a different way and uses the space around guardian to express his feelings. This opening is brilliant in my opinion.
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Adam Hutchinson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 15 December 2005 Location: United States Posts: 4502
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 6:56am | IP Logged | 11
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I didn't get into Alpha Flight 'till much later, the Secret Wars II tie-ins I think(my older brother had a subscription), but they hooked me and this was one of the first back issues I ever hunted down. Since then I've gotten together JB's complete run (Some of the issues I "inherited" from my brother are coverless).
Alpha Flight was a great series when JB was on it. When I try to explain to my friends why I like it so much I end up saying, "It's just such a MARVEL series." I can't really explain what I mean by that too well, but the characters' interactions (esp. Sasquatch and Northstar), their motivations and the feeling of anything can happen in the series really evokes the atmosphere of the early FF and Avengers issues.
Really looking forward to this Reading Club continuing.
Edited by Adam Hutchinson on 05 October 2007 at 6:57am
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Eric Lund Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 15 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2074
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 8:13am | IP Logged | 12
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I just wish Issue #1 had the cover that the Marvel Age comic had as opposed to the one used... I loved that image it was so Iconic with Alpha Flight coming out of the water onto the beach...
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