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Aric Shapiro
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Note Gerry that I said something very similar. Number one, I don;t expect JOhn would agree to do an exact copy,and number 2, I wouldnt want him to, BUT he could do something along the same lines
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Gerry Turnbull
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whats the point of having "something along the same line"?
youll always know its not the actual piece of art you really want
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Aric Shapiro
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You are assuming that I won't like the new one better Gerry.
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Gerry Turnbull
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im not assuming anything. you like piece A.you dont want to pay my price so you get a similar piece done for less. you may like it more, but its not the piece you really want.
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Aric Shapiro
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What I am saying is that I would, under most circumstances, live without that piece if I could commission the same artist. But, that's just ME
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stuart knight
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I would tend to side with Ari on this one; whilst each piece is unique,it is not the same as published original art; another similar one can be gotten. I think commissions mean most to those that commission them. I would not rule out paying the original cost or a little more for the right commission, but it would have to be 100% to my tastes. I think it would be easier to ask for exactly it is what it is I like.
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Along the lines of what Stuart is saying, someone who buys a commission from the commissioner is actually giving up the best part of commissioning, the ability to ask for exactly what he wants, the chance to play a part, however small, in the creative process.
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Paul Greer
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All art is one of a kind. An artist can try and recreate the "magic" and produce a similiar piece, but it isn't 100% the same. Having said that, if more than one person wants the same piece its value will grow. A commission, cover, panel page can all be recreated. However, only one is the original. In collecting art you have to expect to pay more than the previous owner.
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"However, only one is the original. In collecting art you have to expect to pay more than the previous owner. "
With respect to commissions, I don't agree with that at all. Most commissions I've seen sold on eBay have sold for less, sometimes FAR less, than the commission price
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Paul,
Certainly, if one commisisons a high profile character like Wolverine, he stands a chance, especially if it is drawn by John, of recovering most of the commisison price, but someone who commissions Martian Manhunter or Black Canary or some other lesser known character is NEVER going to get back the commission price
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what Paul said . .
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When I commission I do so for the art and not the resale value. I have seen the odd commission go up on ebay or through CAF and whilst it is entirely the owners business why they sell, I have rarely seen a profit to be had. Perhaps in time should JB decide to call it a day, we will see a rise across the board, but like Ari said, only the most popular characters are going to hold their value or make some money. If you commission because it is about appreciating a theme you like by an artist who's work you love, then you can't go far wrong.
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