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Posted: 22 September 2007 at 4:48am | IP Logged | 1  

So, Spandex then?

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As a general rule, no. Superhero costumes are usually made out of materials which, like the colors, don't exist in Nature. Run a quick list and it is difficult to find too many who would really be in Spandex -- especially in the Marvel Universe, where it sometimes seems Reed Richards has loaned or leased out the "unstable molecules" material used in the FF uniforms to just about everybody else. In the DCU, so many costumes are of alien or at least extraordinary origin, Spandex again seems unlikely.
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Ah, now this is where it gets weird. Comics, as noted, are full of colors not found in Nature. The Angel's red costume is --- red. But his "blue" costume is black.


(My apologies if this has been covered elsewhere.)

Being color blind, I found myself obsessing over understanding what the colors must be when I was a child. The fact that black hair was typically colored with blue highlights helped me form some pretty strong theories, but was not accepted as evidence by most of my friends. If I recall correctly, you're color blind as well. Have you ever found your logic on this type of subject dismissed due to your vision?
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My color-blindness affects only a narrow range of green and brown tones, which I tend to reverse. As Roger Stern delights in pointing out, I drew my first half dozen issues of IRON FIST thinking his costume was brown.
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My color-blindness affects only a narrow range of green and brown tones, which I tend to reverse. As Roger Stern delights in pointing out, I drew my first half dozen issues of IRON FIST thinking his costume was brown.

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Might be cool to see a brown Iron Fist costume, maybe someone could photoshop one.
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T'is easy done. . .
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Joe Hollon
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Here's an actual brown costume appearance with no enhancements:

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Like it.  Very nice combo I think.  Thanks.
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JB if that costume were gonna be black with brown highlights what would it look like? I'm trying to get a handle on this is all. Thanks -


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Iron Fist's costume is like Daredevil's, in that it mostly went the opposite direction from the usual in these situations. Where the X-Men, Spider-Man and others lost their blacks, IF gained more. As originally drawn by Gil Kane, his costume was clearly a dark, but glossy material. Instead of becoming more and more open, it gained more and more blacks until, like Angel's red outfit, like Deadman, like so many others, it became one of those colors not found in Nature -- black that has a color hi-lite nothing to do with the surrounding environment.

Funny thing about that --- playing around with my 3D modeler, I discovered there is actually a setting which makes it possible to create surface textures that have just this quality. Thus, this:

His suit is shiny black, but I told the color to reflect dark green, and voila.

In this image of Cyclops, I told the black surface to reflect nothing of the surroundings ambient light…

While for this group shot, I gave each of the black-suited characters a different color to reflect.

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Cool models.
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Cool thread, in general.
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Sweet Marvel Premiere cover.
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