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Aric Shapiro
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Posted: 05 September 2007 at 11:24am | IP Logged | 1 post reply
JB, you mentioned the other day that cover recreations from now on will include logos.  Does that policy apply to reimaginings as well?  Thanks
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Posted: 05 September 2007 at 12:08pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply
Unless the customer specifically says otherwise.
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Wilson Mui
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Posted: 05 September 2007 at 5:17pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Charge less for doing the same amount of work, you mean?

And I'm not sure what you mean by "other interior pages". In the professional comics I do, my page rate is my page rate. It does not vary, based on content. On the few recreations, those went for different prices because that was what they sold for, not because that was what I charged for them.

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I am referring to what Jim charges for your pages, not your page rate from the comic company.  The pricing is dependent on what is drawn on the pages.  An interior page with Bruce Wayne out of costume standing around talking costs less than say a splash pages with the Bat-Man shown swinging around the city.

For example, the person who wants the splash page in Bat-Man #1 would have to pay $1,300, while a page with less action would cost $700.  You would be paid the same for the entire issue.
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What Jim gets for the pages is after-market. What I get for the work is the same no matter what's on the page.
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Wilson Mui
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I realize that.  I just think Jim's pricing structure would be useful here too.  To me, it is the fairest for all involved.
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All except me. I do the same amount of work for less
money.
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Tony Meusel
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Posted: 05 September 2007 at 6:04pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I understand what Wilson is saying.  Your lump sum payment would be your regular rate. Same price for all pages ($1,000 x 10 = $10,000).

The distribution of the pages would be decided upon by how much money people contributed to the effort. Lets say:

  • 1st Choice = $1300
  • 2nd Choice = $1250
  • 3rd Choice = $1200
  • 4th Coice = $1100
  • 5th Choice = $1050
  • 6th Choice = $950
  • 7th Choice = $900
  • 8th Choice = $800
  • 9th Choice = $750
  • 10th Choice = $700
  • Total $10,000

The details would have to be worked out by the page owners, but you would end up with the same pay.

 
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Wilson Mui
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Yes, JB would get the same amount of money for the project.  He would just charge different prices for the pages depending on the content.  I think it might be too complicated to leave it to the buyers to agree on how much each should pay though.
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David Henriot
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 4:43am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Wilson, Tony, yeah, now i see your point.
I would just reduce your list to a maximum of 3-4 choices.
John does his breakdown, he rates each pages, and it's done.

The only problem to that system is that it suppose that at the end, it's all equal.
But what if there's more first or second choice ? He even can get more than $ 10 000.
Same if there's a majority of third and fourth choice, he migth not get the money at the end.

But in that case, wich is a redo of the Detective #27, it's okay because we already know the content :

Page One: No Bat-Man, unless I did a knockoff of the "logo".

Page Two: No Bat-Man.

Page Three: Bat-Man in last panel.

Page Four: Bat-Man in action.

Page Five: Bat-Man in first panel behind wheel of car

Page Six: Bat-Man in action

Page Seven: Bat-Man in action

Page Eight: Bat-Man speechifying, small action

Page Nine: No Bat-Man

Page Ten: Full page splash "reveal" of Bat-Man.

One last option migth be to limitate the sale to five customers only (after all, it's already a limited sale by definition, to a maximum of ten customers), and each one is sure to get a "good" page, and also gets another page.

Once again, it's a comics, people should understand that all pages are necessary. If they want a cool page, well they better go for a commission of their hero, i think.
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*     1st Choice = $1300
*     2nd Choice = $1250
*     3rd Choice = $1200
*     4th Coice = $1100
*     5th Choice = $1050
*     6th Choice = $950
*     7th Choice = $900
*     8th Choice = $800
*     9th Choice = $750
*     10th Choice = $700

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Ah. So in order that some folk pay less than the
usual rate, others would be expected to pay
more?

And this by you is "fair"?
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:14am | IP Logged | 11 post reply
wierd drift.
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:15am | IP Logged | 12 post reply
You know, JB, you could always end this by making a simple statement like "I
will not accept a multi-page commission from multiple clients for the
reasons I've already stated" and leave it at that.
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