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Anthony Frail
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It is better. Maybe a solution to the blue highlights issue would be to have a midnight blue as the paint? I have a Spider-Man figure that's blue is so dark it looks like black but where the light hits it, you see a hint of blue.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 13 November 2009 at 10:27am | IP Logged | 2
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I wonder if...from a camoflage perspective...that blue and white would have
made more sense rather than black?•• I don't really recall any instances where the X-Men's costumes were much
about camouflage! Plus, recall the SOURCE of this suit!
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Ray Brady
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For anyone who hasn't seen it, here's the debut of the Angel's Adams costume:
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Anthony Frail
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Curious-- why didn't they have the highlights colored grey, like the Green Lantern? I think we wouldn't have these slow shifts to blue if they used grey instead. 
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John Byrne
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Curious-- why didn't they have the highlights colored grey, like the
Green Lantern? I think we wouldn't have these slow shifts to blue if they
used grey instead•• Gray is a K-Tone, and costs extra! Often the companies shy away from
this seemingly obvious solution for just that reason! Incidentally, the Adams design may hold the record, at least at Marvel,
for fastest degeneration of a costume design. By the time the book was
canceled, only a few issues after the costume first appeared, it already
had a different configuration to the chest/white pattern, and the boots
had turned white (as drawn by Sal Buscema), and not long after that it
showed up in THE AVENGERS(?) --- blue!
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Vinny Valenti
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One of the best costume designs ever. Havok's is way up there, too.
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Brad Krawchuk
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I never thought of using grey for highlights on Spider-Man/Angel/Superman's hair etc, though it does make sense they didn't use blue for the Green Lanterns! That would just look silly!
My recent purchases:
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You can barely make it out in this picture, but J'Onn is holding an Oreo...errr... "cream-filled chocolate cookie" in his left hand.
Awesome!
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John Byrne
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 Long have I maintained that the Big Reveal at the end of that issue
(That the "Creator" was, in fact, Magneto, showing us his
face for the first time) was a surprise to Roy as much as to the
readers. Reading that issue with the clarity of hindsight, there is a
distinct sense that the pages were being sent in and scripted in a tearing
hurry, with no chance to edit or modify dialog already written when later
pages arrived. The line "…arms which need mechanical support…" does
NOT describe the Creator's "affliction", and his mutates would KNOW that.
But I don't think Roy did! Roy says this is not the case, and everything was plotted beforehand,
casting Neal pretty much as Art Robot -- a most unlikely role, all things
considered!
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Vinny Valenti
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I don't recall what Adams specifically had to say about this reveal, but he has said that he had more of a hand in these stories than the opening credits suggest (and he didn't say that as a complaint). I can only believe that, since the stories written with Adams on board seemed much more interesting (and exciting!) than those before him, even though Roy Thomas wrote most of the stories.
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Curious-- why didn't they have the highlights colored grey, like the
Green Lantern? I think we wouldn't have these slow shifts to blue if they
used grey instead •• Gray is a K-Tone, and costs extra! Often the companies shy away from
this seemingly obvious solution for just that reason! +++++++++++ Note that the early GL stories featured WHITE highlights. The gray didn't come until later.
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