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Marc Baptiste
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JB,
Most of the gay men I know who LOVE Wonder Woman know her only through the television show. In a way it's sort of like the huge crushes straight boys developed on Lynda Carter. Except instead of lusting after her, a lot of young gay men idolized her. They loved her tremendous beauty and super powers. Now this alone doesn't explain "why" per se but, I think there is another more understandable reason: many young gay men loved that mousy, "weak" Diana Prince could spin and MAGICALLY transform into this incredible, beautiful, desired and/or admired by all super-heroine.
Until VERY recently, most young gay men don't get to be themselves growing up. They are in a kind of constant secret identity mode. When Diana Prince wants to be her "true" self for all the world to see, she just spins around and, quite fabulously mind you, transforms into all those wonderful things I alluded to in the previous paragraph.
Wonder Woman (in both comics and the TV show) was often portrayed as a potential "victim" of machismo and hyper-masculine males. They underestimated her, and in doing so often found themselves hurled ankles over ass (no pun intended) across the room. A lot of young gay men wish they had the ability to defend themselves from all the hurt they experience from their peers and no one did it better than WONDER WOMAN!
Now, why not Captain Marvel or Superman? I don't rightly know. I just know for me, that the bulk of support I received as a teen, despite being "different" -- came from girls, not boys. I think gay men never forget this sometimes sanity, even life saving kindness and so identify with women in many ways. I think this is fading among today's young people who have a lot of male and female friends who are supportive and like them despite being "different."
In many ways, the superhero for little girls, became the superhero for gay men.
Edited by Marc Baptiste on 17 June 2009 at 8:15pm
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Michael Roberts
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Does Bowen not know how to use Google or check comicvine.
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I think he is trying to gauge what his customers would like to see, not
displaying an inability to find reference images.
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Al Burr
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| Posted: 18 June 2009 at 12:31am | IP Logged | 3
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JB - If you have a moment, please read Randy Bowen's comments concerning the color of Johnny Blaze's 70s jumpsuit.
http://www.statuemarvels.com/f87/factory-sample-ghost-rider- 3669-5.html
A few of us are having a difference of opinion with Randy over the color. I'd LOVE to hear your opinion! I have a sneaking suspicion, that you are going to side with Randy on this one.
:)
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Al Burr
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| Posted: 18 June 2009 at 12:36am | IP Logged | 4
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PS: One of the main reasons that I'm asking your opinion is because I first encountered Ghost Rider, as drawn by you, in Daredevil (138?) as a kid. I still remember the day I bought it! I honestly think it was the first time that I had ever seen your work & I instantly realized, as a kid, that there was something very different & definitely special about the artwork that I was experiencing.
On another note, Randy has mentioned plans to do bikes for both versions of Ghost Rider. I'm hoping that he will do a third version based on the bike he rode in that DD crossover! What do you think?
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Al Burr
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| Posted: 18 June 2009 at 12:41am | IP Logged | 5
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As promised, below is the factory sample of the Danny Ketch Ghost Rider from Bowen Designs....
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Al Burr
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| Posted: 18 June 2009 at 12:49am | IP Logged | 6
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Randy also posted the following tonight & I'll get these pics over here when time permits...
Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider Full-Sized (factory sample) (POST #58)
http://www.statuemarvels.com/f87/factory-sample-ghost-rider- 3669-3.html
Iron Man in his Space & Hydro Armors
http://www.statuemarvels.com/f87/cant-get-enough-iron-man-36 81.html
Danny Ketch Ghost Rider mini bust (POST #97)
http://www.statuemarvels.com/f87/factory-sample-ghost-rider- 3669-5.html
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Gil Dowling
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| Posted: 18 June 2009 at 6:21am | IP Logged | 7
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Can someone post a pic of the Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider statue please? (I cannot see certain pics at work.)
Thanks!
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Neil Lindholm
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| Posted: 18 June 2009 at 8:21am | IP Logged | 8
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Here is a question about how companies decide on what character to create. I was looking at the various Battlestar Galactica figures and I noticed that they have pretty much every character, including the minor and secondary ones, but no Boomer. Why would they not make a figure of one of the main characters but make figures of secondary characters from RAZOR, or Dualla (for example)? Why some characters but not all of them?
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Al Burr
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| Posted: 18 June 2009 at 9:10am | IP Logged | 9
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Bowen Designs works in progress....
Iron Man - Space Armor & Hydro Armor!
http://www.statuemarvels.com/f87/cant-get-enough-iron-man-36 81.html
I'll be back with pics!
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Bill Mimbu
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| Posted: 18 June 2009 at 10:04am | IP Logged | 10
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"but no Boomer."
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http://www.diamondselecttoys.com/store/item.asp?ItemNo=81967 &CategoryID=369
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Trevor Giberson
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| Posted: 18 June 2009 at 11:27am | IP Logged | 11
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John Byrne wrote:
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his leathers are going to be called a "jumpsuit". Go check with your
local chapter of Hell's Angels. Ask them how many wear "jumpsuits". And then take a look around at how many wear blue leather! I
truly despair when this "debate" flares up again and again. Just one
more instance that points to us all wasting our time in comics, as so
many "fans" refuse to comprehend even the simplest conceits of the form. Blaze wears black leather. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs a reality check.*
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The civilians are obviously confused. For example, here are the lyrics for Henry Rollins' song Ghost Rider (from the awesome Crow soundtrack):
QUOTE:
Ghost Rider motor cycle hero
Ghost Rider motor cycle hero
Baby, baby, baby, baby, he's a blazin' away
Like the stars, stars, stars in the universe, yeah!
Baby, baby, baby, baby, he's lookin' so cute, yeah!
ridin' around in a blue jump suit, yeah!
Baby, baby, baby, baby, he's screamin' the truth!
America is killin' its youth!
cause he is cryin', dyin', chokin', drownin'
Going to jail, going to jail, going to jail
I see him dyin'! Dyin'!! Ohhhhhhh
He's ridin' through town with his head on fire
He's ridin' through town with his head on fire!!
head on burnin' eyes all tired
head on burnin' eyes all tired
Ghost Rider
Ghost Rider!!
keep ridin'
never stop ridin'
don't forget to burn, don't forget to burn
burn....with fire!! with fire, fire, fire, fire, fire!
with fire!!! |
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John Byrne
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…Iron Man - Space Armor & Hydro Armor!…•• Apparently Stark was hit by the same technological collapse that walloped the STAR TREK universe. Back in the days of the Kree/Skrull War he could fly in space in just his regular armor! (When I was asked to pencil the fill-in issue that introduced Rhodey, the first thing I had to draw was Stark in a room full of armor variants. I looked up from the script and asked Roger Stern "Which is the one Robin wears when Batman is injured?")
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