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Keith Thomas
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Body builders as models for super heroes just don't look
right to me, anyone remember when Boris Valejo did a set
of cards with paintings of Marvel characters in the 90's
and used body bulider physiques as the models...none of
them looked right especially the women. I remember an
80's pic of Magneto w/o his shirt and he looked like the
average in shape guy, not fat but not ripped either then
Jim Lee turned him into Mr Abs and I thought for a guy
who lifts everything with his powers he sure gets in a
great workout routine to keep that toned.
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Andy Mokler
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Posted: 06 June 2009 at 12:12pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

John Peter Briton, please tell me you know who is selling those Bruce Lee figures.  Those are all awesome and I might actually try and buy one of them.
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John Peter Britton
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Posted: 06 June 2009 at 12:36pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Andy Mokler you can order those Bruce Lee figures direct from Forbidden Planet!
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Wayde Murray
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Keith wrote:
I thought for a guy
who lifts everything with his powers he sure gets in a
great workout routine to keep that toned.


Careful with that thought, or you'll start wondering about the Gil Kane Green Lantern.



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Air-Walker is on its way from Bowen! The Heralds will be complete.
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Jesse Garcia
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Posted: 06 June 2009 at 9:43pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Here's one that we might all agree on that was just finished ... FIRESTAR (classic cartoon version of course) ...








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Brad Teschner
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never liked what Perez did with her costume...very nice Firestar!
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Luca Tavan
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Just out of interest Jesse (or anyone else), what materials do you use when
sculpting these busts?

I would really like to get into sculpting as an extension on my art studies.
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Body builders as models for super heroes just don't look right to me, anyone remember when Boris Valejo did a set of cards with paintings of Marvel characters in the 90's and used body bulider physiques as the models...none of them looked right especially the women. I remember an 80's pic of Magneto w/o his shirt and he looked like the average in shape guy, not fat but not ripped either then Jim Lee turned him into Mr Abs and I thought for a guy who lifts everything with his powers he sure gets in a great workout routine to keep that toned.

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When I was reading comics as a kid, bodybuilders were considered somewhat on the freakish side. There were competitions, like Mr. Universe, but they did not have the same kind of following the beauty pageants like Miss America had. And the beauty pageants were, of course, about "beauty", whatever the standard happened to be at the time, not about body building. Muscles were the last thing the judges (and audience) wanted to see in the swimsuit competition.

Superheroes tended to be drawn in a manner that suited their abilities. The Flash was lean like a runner, Namor was built like an Olymic swimmer, and the strong guys, like Superman, tended to take as their models not body builders but the circus strongmen of yore. And those guys tended to be slab-like, some even fat. Superman's torso was more cylindrical than "hourglass" shaped.

As bodybuilding moved in from the fringes -- in no small part due to the success of PUMPING IRON -- more and more artists began using body builders as their "models". Only the guys, at first. It took even longer from female body builders to get acceptance. (Wonder Woman had been the exception. Harry Peters had drawn her quite muscular, and she'd actually lost definition over the years.)

Unfortunately, more and more artists were coming in to comics professional who had looked, it seemed, only at comics (or Japanese animation) for their inspiration in drawing the human form, and pretty soon everybody looked like Arnold, no matter their powers. The internal logic was lost,

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Pascal LISE
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Posted: 07 June 2009 at 4:57am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Jesse, I second Luca.

Would you be interested to post a step by step tutorial ?
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Jesse Garcia
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Several different materials are used for different sculpts ... everything from super sculptey, to sculptor's wax, to epoxy.

I'm just now starting to get into sculpting, and the only materials that I've used are super sculpty and epoxy with varying levels of success.

The step by step would have to come from Keith and/or Jim, who are the masters.

Kit Builders Magazine offers a sculpting (and painting) class each year at Wonderfest .. a Garage Kit convention of sorts, held in Louisville, KY ... taught by Gabe Perna (an AMAZING sculptor in his own right) which I will be taking next year.
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Marc Baptiste
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Posted: 07 June 2009 at 10:31am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Jesse,

You are VERY talented.  I admire you.
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