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Joe S. Walker
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Just been reading the thread on this subject at TCJ. If I was Gerry, I'd keep the picture and hang it in the lavatory.
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Wow, I can't believe some of the posters over at the Comics Journal, willing to defend Golden at all costs. I thought he was one of those dirty superhero artists.
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Gerry's story is in Lying in the Gutters at CBR.
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Golden has just posted (via Renee) on TCJ boards that Gerry (and the rest of us) will not be getting a refund or a re-done piece of art:

There will be no refund or further discussion. Mr. Turnbull has
gotten what he asked for. Despite the spin he has chosen to put on
it, there was never any guarantee of when he would receive the work
or that he would like it when he did. Basically the same thinking and
intentions are applicable to the work done for his compatriots. And,
I trust I've made my point to anyone-else that is inclined to
question my "professionalism".

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Oh, I wouldn't worry about that Mr. Golden. Your "point" is taken.

And I hope it has been made clear to anyone else inclined to impose upon your "professionalism".

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Robert Kowalewski II
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There will be no refund or further discussion. Mr. Turnbull has
gotten what he asked for. Despite the spin he has chosen to put on
it, there was never any guarantee of when he would receive the work
or that he would like it when he did. Basically the same thinking and
intentions are applicable to the work done for his compatriots. And,
I trust I've made my point to anyone-else that is inclined to
question my "professionalism".

 

I guess this means you'll post a copy of the artwork now Mr. Finn.  I wonder what the other two look like?

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If what Renee is saying is true, and these four fans wanted their art to be bumped up the list, in front of others, then that means Golden has a backlog of over a year, if not longer, and yet is still accepting money in advance with fans having no knowledge of this. Whether Renee is telling the truth or not, Golden still looks like a scam artist.
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Are you questioning his "professionalism"?
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"I trust I've made my point to anyone-else that is inclined to
question my "professionalism"."

I don't get it. The facts -the image posted by Gerry - suggest a lack of professionalism. The prevarication and apparently outright lies presented bolster that claim, but the picture itself is enough.
I haven't read the counter-argument on the TCJ - board, but unless Golden can show  a good, professional reason why he chose to draw the commission that way, the "point" he's made is that he's unprofessional.  Somehow I don't think that's what he meant.

There's so much wrong with the whole mess. Saying that the work was "discounted" - as if somehow that means it doesn't have to meet professional standards.  Saying that Gerry and the others tried to jump ahead in line after 10 months when we have other posters here saying they got their commissons from Golden within a month. Gah.

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I don't understand this whole "bump up my request!" defense. The two of
them have been in the comics business for how long? Noone in all that time
has ever asked to be moved further up the list? Is anyone supposed to
believe that they've never encountered this situation before and didn't know
how to handle it...except by overreacting and sending a childish retort?

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... that doesn't even take into account the multiple holes that logic leaves in her story, most blatantly the fact that she states that Golden was approached by these 4 at a con and given a discount..... dispite the fact that they placed orders individually at different cons over a period of a few months. Even if I didn't have some idea of Gerry's character from these boards, the few points of obvious misinformation in her story and the contradictions betweens hers and Golden's accounting leaves little doubt that the tale isn't how she is depicting it.

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The mere fact that Andy Ihnatko was able to get a sketch by the end of San Diego puts the lie to the whole "long list" theory.
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