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Dave B Stewart Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 12:09pm | IP Logged | 1
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JB, how was the look of the city scene in the first panel of the fourth page posted achieved?
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John Byrne
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 12:41pm | IP Logged | 2
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JB, how was the look of the city scene in the first panel of the fourth page posted achieved?*** Hi-contrast photograph.
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Bill Dowling Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 1:02pm | IP Logged | 3
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1) That last page with Spider-Man's black costume escaping reminds me of both Flatman and Doorman.
2) My wife just had a third miscarriage (although thankfully not as far along as Sue was) and that sequence feels awfully real to me.
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Corey Johnson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 1:05pm | IP Logged | 4
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Not really a fan of the Gordon inks on JB in this issue. Reed's face looks especially odd.
That being said, "Monster Mash" was a total blast! Lots of fun, and only took half an issue to tell!
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Chad Carter Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 4:06pm | IP Logged | 5
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I've had a strange deal come over me in recent years, where I feel like I'd enjoy stories about Ben Grimm as a human man again.
I feel like it might be cool if someone else were the Thing for a while (and not a woman), while Ben became a part of the FF without powers. He has his courage and his stubborness. I think a boat totally was missed by Roy Thomas back in the 70s, when Ben was changed to human and belly-ached so much about being a "nothin'" that Reed invented the Thing exoskeleton for him.
I'd love to see Ben as part of the FF, but as a normal man. Englehart had human Ben take out the Frightful Four during his run at one point. It's funny how much I always enjoy a human Ben story. I've never read this issue...love the beard, of course. Great look.
Simply put, Ben Grimm is a handful whether he's human or Thing. I'd like to see extended human action, just for the hell of it.
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Ryan Maxwell Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 4:17pm | IP Logged | 6
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My first ever issue of FF, I'm pretty sure I bought it for the epilogue after seeing Spider-Man visit the Baxter Building to get rid of the symbiote in his own title. I went into a Byrne back issue buying frenzy after this.
And yeah, I don't like the inks looking back, especially on that close-up of Reed's face.
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Chris Durnell Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 6:46pm | IP Logged | 7
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I agree that the art looks off on this, but I wonder what precisely JB thinks he went wrong. Did he change the the way he laid out the story, the panel composition, the way he used shadow?
I remember that the last bit explaining the symbiote's escape was reproduced ad infitum in other titles to prepare for the costume's return in Web of Spider-Man #1.
The countdown continues to my first Byrne FF issue (as I have mentioned, not technically true as I had a few issues in the 230s and the one where Terrax came to Earth that lead to the Galactus storyline - but those were lost and forgotten).
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Jason Ditzel Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 7:29pm | IP Logged | 8
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JB: What was going on that caused you to take a break from inking the FF at this point?
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John Byrne
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 7:36pm | IP Logged | 9
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I just needed to "clean the pipes" and I didn't want to
leave the book completely.
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Thanos Kollias Byrne Robotics Member
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I liked Gordon's inks, maybe more than Ordway's, but I think he completely missed the face of Reed, in this effort, at least.
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Joe Smith Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 June 2007 at 1:01am | IP Logged | 11
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That Monster story sure got my brain pumping back then!
You rock, JB.
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Ted Pugliese Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 June 2007 at 8:49am | IP Logged | 12
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JB, you are my favorite John Byrne inker, so I really wish you inked these later issues. I find myself preferring the Ordway inks to Gordon's, though.
FYI, I like Jerry Ordway's work. I really do, but over John Byrne, George Perez, and Dan Jurgens, I think he makes them look a little too much like Jerry Ordway. Not a bad thing; these 4 guys are in my top ten (JB and George are #1-2), but I like it when JB and George ink themselves or use someone who does not overshadow(?) their own styles.
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