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Michael Connell Byrne Robotics Member
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From the Offical Handbook of the Marvel Universe:
Weapons: Captain America's only weapon is his shield, a concave disk 2.5 feet in diameter, weighing 12 pounds. It is made of a unique Vibranium-Adimantium alloy that has never been duplicated. The Shield was cast by American metallurgist Dr. Myron MacLain, who was contracted by the U.S. government to create an impenetrable substance to use for tanks during World War II. During his experiments, MacLain combined Vibranium with an Adamantium-steel alloy he was working with and created the disc-shaped shield. MacLain was never able to duplicate the process due to his inability identify a still unknown factor that played a role in it. The shield was awarded to Captain America by the government several months after the beginning of his career.
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 09 June 2007 at 11:37pm | IP Logged | 2
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I think things were clarified after the Handbook came out. The shield is a vibranium-steel alloy. Adamantium was created in an attempt to recreate the shield.
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Kurt Anderson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 09 June 2007 at 11:39pm | IP Logged | 3
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I like how there's a post showing an example of adamantium being broken, followed by a post stating that it cannot be broken.
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Dave Powell Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 09 June 2007 at 11:42pm | IP Logged | 4
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Again reaching into the Guardians of the Galaxy future, when Vance's Adamantium lined suit is breached, one of the Guardians exclaimed "But adamantium is the strongest metal known" and unbreakable which was refuted by another Guardian.... claiming "Dargonite" was the new strongest material. To claim adamantium is unbreakable would be kind of ridiculous, pretty sure any Celestial would play with it like it was silly putty, ditto to Galactus. It's just the strongest thing going right now, and impervious to any earthly damage.
Back on topic though, Superman does not beat Adamantium, and of course Triangle Man beats Particle Man.
Edited by Dave Powell on 09 June 2007 at 11:43pm
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Brian Hague Byrne Robotics Member
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Michael, regarding that OHOTMU entry, was this the same "Element X" that played such a pivotal role in the creation of the Powerpuff Girls, I wonder...?
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Brian Hague Byrne Robotics Member
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Superman most likely cannot break adamantium on a normal day, in an average set of circumstances. It is "unbreakable." That's it's given. If it became necessary for Superman to shatter it, to save a life or prevent something catastrophic from occuring, somehow, he'd find a way to do so... He'd find some method of combining in a third resin, thereby altering its properties or draw the material backwards along it's own timeline until it's components separated... Somehow, he'd do what needed to be done.
I thought Arnold Drake established Vance Astro's spacesuit was made of copper, and therefore, extremely vulnerable. Did he pick up a new suit in the later Guardians series, Dave?
Does anyone else picture Guy Gardner as Triangle Man? And Peter Parker as Person Man?
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Dave Powell Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 June 2007 at 12:12am | IP Logged | 7
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Yes, Martinex fixed him up with a room he could take his suit off in, and a new suit with adamantium foil. Then he lost the suit and started dressing a little like Captain America, then he gained a "venom" suit, and then they got cancelled.
I picture Eternity as "Universe Man"
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Brian Hague Byrne Robotics Member
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Thanks, Dave! I've seen covers showing Astro in his Cap costume ala' Valentino, but I didn't realize there was an interim adamantium suit as well. A "venom" suit? Hm. The recycling of Marvel tropes gets a bit wearying at times... Still, I can see how it may have worked in context...
Good call on "Universe Man!"
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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If I were Superman I would swoop in Super speed style and toss wolverine into space.... END
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Jacob P Secrest Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 June 2007 at 10:28am | IP Logged | 10
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No.
Adamantium is unbreakable.
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Lance Hill Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 June 2007 at 10:33am | IP Logged | 11
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QUOTE:
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That was Chemical X.
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John C. Harrison Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 June 2007 at 12:14pm | IP Logged | 12
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QUOTE:
If I were Superman I would swoop in Super speed style and toss wolverine into space.... END |
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didn't Jaffe the guardian of the M'kran crystal try that all ready??
to quote Rocket J. Squirrel: "that trick never works"
Edited by John C. Harrison on 10 June 2007 at 12:15pm
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