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David Barker
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| Posted: 20 May 2007 at 11:21pm | IP Logged | 1
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There are so many categories of Manga it is impossible to say you don't like "Manga". You are essentially saying you don't like Horror, action, samurai, comedy, drama, space, love, sport, magic, etc ..etc. It is the same thing as saying you don't like romance comics-if you've never actually read one. When people say they don't like manga I envision people saying they don't like the Fantastic Four because they hate Kirby art without having read the Stan lee stories. Anyway-after that rant I have to recommend different manga for different reasons...
Love/drama/comedy...Ah/Oh My Goddess, Ai Yori Aoshi.
Classic Manga...Appleseed, Nausicaa, Lone Wolf & Cub
Kid Friendly..Astro Boy, Gon
Action...Blade of The Immortal, Gunsmith Cats
New Stuff I like....Rozen Maiden
There is a bunch of stuff out there and you can find about any theme or type of tale. If you hate the art so much as to not be able to enjoy it I feel bad for you.
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John Angelo
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 at 12:19am | IP Logged | 2
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Looks like Samura Hiroaki's style is undeniably influential!
Creator of Samurai Zombie Accused of Plagiarism
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Emery Calame
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 at 12:21am | IP Logged | 3
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Errr..the Americanized version of Astro Boy is kid friendly. The original Japanese version is a bit...stranger.
Astro Boy has little machine guns in his butt cheeks(I guess for when his laser is on the fritz) and even more oddly he takes nourishment(power) through a plug in his bottom via a big device that looks a lot like a giant old fasioned enema tube. Look! They went and made a little diorama of it!
Edited by Emery Calame on 21 May 2007 at 12:25am
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Martin Redmond
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 at 3:08pm | IP Logged | 4
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Japanese Comic Books = Disturbing
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Chris Hutton
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 at 10:40pm | IP Logged | 5
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I'm guilty of referring to anime as Manga.
But I must admit, that I find anime art disturbing, and have zero interest in Manga. (Even as I typed this, I mixed up Manga & anime!)
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Lars Johansson
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 at 12:05am | IP Logged | 6
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Chris: I'm guilty of referring to anime as Manga.
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So do they, you reminded me of "Manga Video's" anime Armitage. I have
only seen the first. Although over-simplistic, I love it. The sequel is
with Juliette Lewis.
Chris: But I must admit, that I find anime art disturbing, and have zero interest in Manga.
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You have probably zero interest in what you have seen here or what you
have come in contact with. If you like Byrne like me or Marvel, DC,
Dark Horse I'm sure you'll find some. I like the simpler
stories/comics, mostly animes over mangas, Evangelion, No need for
Tenchi etc. And everything with an "unwanted harem" (a guy trapped with
a lot of girls teasing him). But I have to stress that if you are used
to DC, Marvel, be prepared for less quaility, don't expect Shalespeare
when reading Mangas.
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Chris Hutton
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 at 9:04pm | IP Logged | 7
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Shalespeare
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OK, I know it's a typo, but I didn't know Washington Post TV critic Tom Shales held himself in such high regard!!! ;)
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John Angelo
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| Posted: 23 May 2007 at 12:16am | IP Logged | 8
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Updated my sig to reflect the times...and this thread!!!
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John Angelo
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| Posted: 23 May 2007 at 12:31am | IP Logged | 9
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Steve Horton's insight:
I love Case Closed. It's a consistent check-out for me at the local Noblesville library, which by the way has a tremendous graphic novel section. They have everything domestic and manga - most of the best stuff is constantly on hold, so you have to get on the list.
And for some reason, it's ALL in the teen section, including stuff that's waaaay inappropriate for teens.
I love my local library's TPB section. I gotta give kudos to the county libraries for purchasing TPBs (manga included!)
And I agree, Borders, B&N - whoever - have to really take a look at what is inappropriate for young reads and PUT IT OUT OF minors' reach! Manga aside, I happened to browse through a volume of The Invisibles by Grant Morrison. My gawd, it was within reach of any young reader's curious reach. I found a young prepubescent character in panties and bleeding from the crotch - what da heck?!?
(I'm getting the deja vu that I might've related this incident on these boards before...)
Manga = disturbing? Nice generalization there, Can you lump The Invisibles in there for me?
Edited by John Angelo on 23 May 2007 at 12:33am
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Carmen Bernardo
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| Posted: 23 May 2007 at 4:10am | IP Logged | 10
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Good rejoinder, John. I was wondering if I should've replied to that. I suppose you could also use his argument on the current state of Marvel and DC comics, or American comics in general.
Not all Japanese comics are aimed at general audiences the way Marvel and DC supposedly does. I'm more a fan of the T+ rated books because they do take a step just outside of the bounds of most mainstream American comics themselves, but not so far that I wouldn't be able to relate the story to any teenager growing up in the world. The assumption made by Martin above simply lumps in generally accessable series like Naruto and Gundam with the pornography and scatology that Japanese seem to accept (albeit, with some reservations).
Frankly, I could care less what such critics might think. The reason I pick up manga is that there are few, if any, American comics out there which step outside the box created by the mainstream "cape" comics, "zombie war" comics and assorted underground strips which get sold to the direct market only. Marvel and DC may have made a mistake in regard to how they treat their audiences and the characters they own, but I've long since found the alternative...
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Ed Love
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I like superheroes, so maybe I'm not the best to answer this. Wish DC & Marvel would get back to writing their superheroes as heroes. I'd probably read some Manga if it had superhero alternatives to the American comics. But, to hold up superheroes and zombie comics saying the companies produce few if nothing else that steps out of that box... the error in your thinking is in just that example. A few years ago, there weren't any zombie comics from the big two. The fact that it's prevalent now is proof that they did decide to do something a little different and it's obviously paying off for them.
Likewise, DC (re-)produces Manga titles of its own and there are the several non-superhero Vertigo titles. There's Y-The Last Man, Jonah Hex, Hellblazer, Fables, etc. Scrolling through the list, you get about halfway and you're out of their mainstream superhero titles, and only a few superheroes (mostly wildstorm and the couple of animated adventure titles) are in the second half. That seems hardly just a few offerings. Marvel's branched out in adapting several popular fantasy writers' novels as well as the upcoming classics series LAST OF THE MOHICANS, and THE MAN IN THE IRON MASK. They've experimented with oneshots focusing on their Western and monster characters. Darkhorse rarely does superheroes, likewise Moonstone and Dynamic publishing, giving us Conan and Red Sonja among others. While American comics do focus on superheroes as the predominant genre, it's very far from the truth to say that there are few titles that aren't superheroes.
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Patrick Drury
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| Posted: 23 May 2007 at 7:27am | IP Logged | 12
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Japanese Comic Books = Disturbing
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That comment = Silly generalization
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