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Lars Johansson
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I have some questions, will it be possible to daw a timeline, I mean a
real timeline since 1987, I mean, JB's Superman and onwards. I noticed
that JB's timeline last about 10 years or so, then they, after I left
the books for a while and came back, thay had started to introduce each
episode with "born on Krypton, as a baby he was sent to Earth". Now,
something must have happened there, since they earlier strictly wrote
birth-matrix and that he was born on Earth. The birth-matrix idea must
have left there. When did it happen?
I read the Zero Hour, but nothing about Superman seemed to change
there, the Byrne space-ship was still there in their end splash
explanational map at the end. So it can't be it, can it? Could it have
been a ship with a baby just looking like a birth matrix?
I am also interested in the other changes, how they happened, for
example, when and how did Krypton look like the TV cartoon? How did
Kenny Rogers (just barely browsed through it at the store, sorry)
Jor-El come about?
And how do all of this fit into the pocket universe and Superboy and
Infinite Crisis? And why is Superman still married? It was the birt
matrix Superman that married? Are Superman's parents still alive?
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Daniel Kendrick
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they had Conner/Kon-El join the Legion for awhile. That ended in the Legion/Teen Titans cross-over a few years ago (L/TT special). They did put in that Superboy-Prime was messing with things, though not directly (a disturbance in the time stream like something pounding against it). After it was all said and done we got Waid's Legion of disgruntled teens in a perfect world.
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Francesco Vanagolli
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Superman is still Clark Kent, he loves Lois Lane, he was found and raised by the Kents in Smallville, he lives in Metropolis and works at the Daily Planet.
They can undo whatever they want, what really matters for me are these basics.
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Simon Bucher-Jones
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Is Pa Kent alive or dead currently? Heh "Schrodinger" Kent [I know a 'death of Pa Kent story' was in All-Star Superman #6 which I liked, but I've only bought a couple of the post-Infinite Crisis Superman titles, and don't know if its *true* in those.]
Simon BJ
Edited by Simon Bucher-Jones on 27 April 2007 at 2:36am
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Peter Svensson
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He's still alive.
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Zaki Hasan
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But give it time.
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Michael Roberts
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Pa Kent is looking a lot like an aged John Schneider in the most recent
comics. I'm hoping the Superman team realizes what a big mistake it was
getting rid of Jonathan Kent on Smallville and won't follow suit in order to be
more in line with the movies.
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Lars Johansson
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Zaki: But give it time.
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I think I understand what you mean, but I don't agree. Even if he is killed now it has actually nothing to do with what happened in the movies or Smallville. If we look at JB's Superman, his parents are 20 years younger. In the movie another older Johnathan dies from a heart attack. It was not to me any big "death of Jonathan", it was probably a movie mishap or they had not time to kill both of them and still they wanted Clark to leave as Superman. This should be the same event the movie way as when Superboy's parents died pre-crisis.
On the Smallville show his parents were young and beautiful. It's pretty obvious that (to begin with) we watched a younger version of JB's Superman. Suddenly they killed the wrong guy, to fit in with the movie "easy way out"-thing. But he is not the same age.
On the other hand, when Clark has become Superman, after JB left the title, it's OK to me to let Clark die, let his parents die, let one of them die, let Clark himself die as long as they keep the birth matrix and stay with the continuity etc.
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Jason Carpenter
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Jason Todd didn't return because of SUperboy punching a wall. Jason Todd returned because when SUperman came back to life he left a door opened. What the Superboy thing is is that when he was expressing his frustration he would punch the walls of REALITY, putting stress and strain on it, causing ripple effects that caused the changes in continuity to occur.
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Glenn Greenberg
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I'm having a real hard time understanding Lars's posts lately.
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Stanton L. Kushner
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QUOTE:
| Jason Todd didn't return because of SUperboy punching a wall. Jason Todd returned because when SUperman came back to life he left a door opened. |
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That's not what the Batman Annual that explained his return said. It was made prety explicit that SBP punched the walls of reality, causing JT to go from dead in the grave to alive in the grave.
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Kurt Anderson
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Kid Eternity was stuck in the revolving door of death, and allowed a chunk of characters to return to life for no reason.
So DC sort of has a catch-all excuse for these guys popping up from time to time.
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