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Ed Love
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Not all hybrids are by definition mules and sterile though. And in some cases because one is, doesn't mean that every hybrid of that type is. Since we have no real Atlanteans to compare the genetics to and we're using comic book science anyways, there's no reason that as a hybrid, it cannot be closer to a wolf-dog hybrid than a mule, or that Namora just happens to be that 1 in 100 that's not sterile, leading to an advance along the evolutionary lines to a new sustainable species. Not that revealing Namorita was a clone made a difference to me one way or the other regarding the character other than making for what I thought was an interesting story.

I never really knew much about her before NEW WARRIORS and I was glad to see her get more exposure in NAMOR. Seems strange that there'd be animosity over her use especially considering that she's not the lead in either book . Plus, characters have appeared in multiple books in the present and the past (Wolverine), so it seems a secondary character shared between books shouldn't be that hard to work out.


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JB wrote: "* When Namorita turned up in the second issue of NAMOR there were complaints from "down the hall". "She belongs to our book!!" All in all, it was like the writer of TEEN TITANS trying to tell the Batman office how to handle Robin -- only in this case, TITANS "won", and the character lost. "

Isn't that pretty much how Jason Todd came about ?

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Since we have no real Atlanteans to compare the genetics to and we're using comic book science anyways, there's no reason that as a hybrid, it cannot be closer to a wolf-dog hybrid than a mule, or that Namora just happens to be that 1 in 100 that's not sterile…

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No reason? How about writer's intent?

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JB, it never occurred to me that hybrids like Namor and Namora (or Namorita) would be "mules."  Was this something established earlier, or were you the originator of it? 

If this was something already established, I could see the "need" for an explanation.  Overall though, I think it could have simply not been referred to at all and lay forgotten.  I don't mind "fixing" stories that are fun, but this left me more with a strange shock.  Before your run, I never found Nita interesting at all, but really liked her as a supporting character.  This revelation reduced my enthusiasm.  This wasn't a conscious decision - something instinctive.  Perhaps because she was my last "comics crush."

As to the difficulties of genetic comparison of Homo Sapiens and Homo Mermanus...  takes a far better person than I.

If Namor was sterile though, I think it would make Atlantean dynastic politics more interesting.

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I think it could have simply not been referred to at all and lay forgotten.

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It wasn't "referred to". Not by me, anyway. Not in the story.

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Richard Fisher
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I never read New Warriors, how was Namorita treated differently in that book?
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She was -- get ready for it now!! -- "darker".

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Aaron Smith
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Richard, I'd also like to answer your question in this way:

  I haven't read those Namor issues or those New Warriors issues since they first came out 15(?) years ago, and I remember the Namor stories, but recall almost nothing about the New Warriors stuff. So...darker, lighter, or whatever...one was better.

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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!!
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Yeah, they turned her blue and renamed her Kymaera (sp?) for a while. The explanation was that recent physical (she'd gotten beaten badly and her limbs impaled by Sea Urchin as I recall) and emotional trauma (the whole clone thing) had triggered a physiological response and activated some latent genes causing her to take on a more pure-blood Atlantean appearance as well as making her a bit more volitile, shall we say...

As for "My Mother, Myself" One of my favourite issues of comicdom, ever. Both the writing and art are simply excellent.

I'd vote for WCA next after Namor, especially the "Vision Quest" stuff. Always loved JB's Wanda better than anyone else's and that storyline was a great vehicle for her.



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The blue phase was fairly late in the NEW WARRIORS run, after the original
artist Bagley had left. By that time, the series was running out of steam, at
least for me. Fabian's stories were getting a bit murkier and duller. But
the first couple of years, the book was fresh and energetic, almost
everything you'd want in a team comic.
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