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Patrick Drury
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Watchmen was the superhero genre through the lens of the Underground Comix.
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How do you figure?
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I got the same vibe reading Watchmen. 
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I can see the argument for Watchmen not being a superhero story, although I would argue that there were heroes in it. They were simply flawed like everyone else. In that way they reflect the real world more than a typical superhero story would. There are no people in the real world who could live up to the standards that superheroes adhere to.
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What is a hero, Rance? 
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"I got the same vibe reading Watchmen."

So it's really more of an opinion than any kind of fact then, Joe?
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Sure. 
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Brian Crispkey
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You might want to re-word this then:

"Watchmen was the superhero genre through the lens of the Underground
Comix. There's nothing super or heroic in the Watchmen. 'Nuff said."
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No, that's alright.
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I can see the argument for Watchmen not being a superhero story, although I would argue that there were heroes in it. They were simply flawed like everyone else. In that way they reflect the real world more than a typical superhero story would. There are no people in the real world who could live up to the standards that superheroes adhere to.

I agree with all that....which is why it wasn't a superhero story and most of us starting reading super hero stories. To see something greater than we are.

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 Joe Zhang wrote:
What is a hero, Rance?

Well, ignoring the fact that you are merely asking so that you can refute it, I feel that a hero is someone who puts the needs of others before their own needs. Who will risk their own lives to save the life of another...

Now, it's been a while since I read Watchmen, but I distinctly remember a scene with Silk Spectre and Owlman saving people from a burning building. To me, that is heroic.

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And you cannot grasp the difference between doing
something heroic and being heroic?
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I got the same vibe reading Watchmen.
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And how would you describe the "vibe" you get from reading Watchmen and Underground Comix?
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