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James Revilla
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| Posted: 07 February 2007 at 2:17am | IP Logged | 1
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I can go and find that millions of people watch Jerry Springer but I know it isn't good TV. I can go and find millions of people watch Wrestling and know it isn't a sport. I can go and find millions of people buying the national enquier and know it isn't a good magazine. And I can go read all your boards and still know that Watchmen is a horrible superhero comic as it has no heroes in it. It's called absorbing what you read and not just being a parrot to every other opinion on the net. I never said I didn't like it, I said I thought it was the first shot at sinking this ship we call comics. I can enjoy the writing of something but at the same time know, it was a bad idea for the industry.
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Rafael Guerra
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Your analogies are all wrong. How many would say Jerry Springer is one of the best shows ever made for TV?
In contrast, you will find many critics who say Citizen Kane is one of the best movies ever made. And they are right.
But yeah, you're right, I mean, what the fuck does Stan Lee knows about superheroes, right?
First Shot at the sinking ship of comics? So what Wertham did was, what? Something good?
Watchmen was one of the "First Shots" who actually brought a degree of respectability and acclaim wrongly considered to be only juvenile trash to the Sinking Ship of Comics which had starting sinking far before Alan Moore got any of his stories published in the US.
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Brian Crispkey
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James: I see your point, but I still feel it's a great superhero story. More
appropriately, I feel it's a great story about a bunch of people that used to
fight crime for various different reasons. A 'what if crime fighters/
superheroes were real?' story, if you like. It's a superhero story that steps
outside of the box for me.
Emery: you're a very angry individual.
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Emery Calame
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Brian, thanks so much for contributing your valuable opinion about who is angry. I'll be sure to file it in the appropriate section of my archives right next to that empty burger wrapper and the broken rubber band.
From what I can tell Rafael sounds a bit angry too but you seem to have let him off the hook somehow.
:)
(And he giggled.)
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John Byrne
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THE BAD GUY WINS. THE BAD GUY KILLS NEARLY EVERYONE IN NEW YORK.*** And the bad guy calls himself "Big Loser". I STILL don't get that one!
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Brian Crispkey
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| Posted: 07 February 2007 at 7:35am | IP Logged | 6
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Angry and sarcastic. A winning combination.
Don't worry Emery, I'll be sure to mention it to Rafael when lengthy, angry
and confrontational posts start to become his signature tune as well.
You can file that one in the drawer you keep your medication in.
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Randy Sterger
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Didn't a lot of issues of What If? have unhappy endings? Are those not superhero stories either? lol
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Brian Crispkey
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| Posted: 07 February 2007 at 7:40am | IP Logged | 8
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Good point Randy.
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John Byrne
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Didn't a lot of issues of What If? have unhappy endings? Are those not superhero stories either? lol +++ Good point Randy. *** Good point if the object of the exercise is to miss the point. "Unhappy endings" are not the issue. Which you'd understand, if you weren't a couple of fucking morons. LOL. :-)
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Oliver Staley
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"I don't mind being the smartest man in the world. I just wish it wasn't this
one."
Brian, are you referring to Emery?
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Brian Crispkey
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"Which you'd understand, if you weren't a couple of fucking morons.
LOL. :-)"
Well that seemed a little bit unnecessary.
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Joe Zhang
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But hilarious !
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