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Jimmie Harvey
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Bruce Buchanan
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I can see why you might not like Layton's Hercules stuff - it definitely was silly. But it was just one guy's take on these characters (in a mini-series, no less); I never thought it caused them any harm.
And to Layton's credit, he has done plenty of "serious," well-respected work on Iron Man.
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José Emilio Amo
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Al Cook
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Not everyone feels his work on Iron Man deserves as much respect as it
has received, Bruce.
And I know that I am in the minority in not liking his art, but I'm cool with
that. I find that his approach to anatomy, perspective and overall
dynamics just don't live up to my standards.
I think that he can be a fine inker, though. So long as he leaves his own
ego in check and refrains from re-drawing...
(It's criminal how much he did that to JRjr, for example. Or check out the
Hulk annual where he inked JB, and redrew at least half the faces...
Maybe I should have referred to him as the proto-Nelson!)
Proto as in prototype, as far as being the recipient of undeserved acclaim
goes. When it happened with Liefeld it went to whole new levels - both in
the amount of acclaim as well as the depth-of-meagerness of the talent
involved. Layton is far more talented than Liefeld, and did not receive
anywhere near the amount of superstar hype, but I see a clear parallel
there...
Edited to remove the words "too much" when I meant to just say
"refrains from redrawing" - any redrawing is too much!
Edited by Al Cook on 09 May 2008 at 8:23am
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Joe Hollon
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"Proto as in prototype. Recipient of undeserved acclaim."
****
I've never heard "prototype" defined that way. That's what confused me I guess.
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Al Cook
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I clarified how I was using it after you copied my quote. Hope I'm not
confusing anyone!
Edited by Al Cook on 09 May 2008 at 8:31am
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Ryan Maxwell
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Neither
I don't think I bought the Avengers East comics that JB wrote, so neither again.
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Brandon Carter
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Andrew Hess
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JB's Hercules.
(Tho, in all honesty, I haven't really followed Layton's work since he was the steady inker on Joe Staton in the mid-70s. I picked up the "Demon in the Bottle" Iron Man arc, but that was probably the last time I have seen his work.)
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John Young
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Layton's work, it was part of my Golden Age.
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Yesterday: technically neither since i don't buy either -- but i do find the notion of "Bucky" replacing Steve slightly LESS repulsive than Tony Stark becoming a super-villain.
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Troy Nunis
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today: Layton's Hercules -- loved them for what they were (Possible Future stories in a Humorous tone) -- of course, if Hercules HAD defeated Galactus by getting him drunk it would be bad, but since he didn't, all's good.
while JB draws a fantastic Hercules, any particularly definative storytelling with him does't come to mind - certainly wouldn't mind seeing that someday, tho'
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