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Hunter McFalls
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Aurora.
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Wade Duvall
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Er... Wade, Northstar was ALWAYS gay. Check the FAQ's.
Really? I thought they turned him gay in AF #107 or something. He appeared in lots of comics prior to that. Don't remember him being gay. Please give me the FAQs that showed him portrayed as gay prior to the reveal in AF #107?
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Wade Duvall
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As others have pointed out, there are hints of Northstars sexuality throughout JB's run. Luckily he never felt the need in those 28 issues to proclaim "I am gay" during a deadly battle!
What were some of those hints that others pointed out? Examples please.
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Tom French
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Go back and read JB's run of AF, Wade. See for yourself. In the meantime, read the FAQ's on this very site -- some great insight for you if you do.
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Tom French
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Secondly, and more importantly -- one doesn't "turn" gay. One comes to terms with ones sexuality. One can come "out of the closet" and let everyone KNOW, but nobody "turns" gay.
Just want you to be aware of your syntax.
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Wade Duvall
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Go back and read JB's run of AF, Wade. See for yourself. In the meantime, read the FAQ's on this very site -- some great insight for you if you do.
First of all, I don't own a run of Alpha Flight and even if I did I am not going to read it to find some hidden messages that hinted to Northstar being gay prior to it bein revealed in #107. Likewise, I am not going to search though the FAQs section for something that supports YOUR argument. Just provide a link to the exact quotes and I will look.
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Jacob P Secrest
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Tom, fictional characters can be turned gay, they do nothing they are not
written to do, and if a character is written to come out of the closet with
nothing prior indicating they were gay, then they have been turned gay,
though in real life you would be absolutely right.
However that doesn't apply to Northstar, and just to clarify, the reason
that John Byrne never said Northstar was gay outright was the Comics
Code, nothing else.
Here's the link:
Northstar's Gayness
Edit: Wade, you could just go to the FAQ and type "Northstar" in the
search box, it's not that hard, there are only three things that come up,
and one has "gay" in the title, I wonder which one could be the one
related to this conversation?
It's not like your an archeologist teeming through countless volumes of
work, there's a search feature.
I did it for you, and it's still not that hard.
Man, some people.
Edited by Jacob P Secrest on 19 January 2007 at 12:21pm
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Wade Duvall
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Secondly, and more importantly -- one doesn't "turn" gay. One comes to terms with ones sexuality. One can come "out of the closet" and let everyone KNOW, but nobody "turns" gay.
When I said turn gay I was referring to Marvel "turning" Northstar gay in a comic book. You don't need to make this about what is and isn't gay in real life. I am sure you have your views and I have mine and they probably don't match. My argument was that there was no need to turn an established character gay who wasn't gay to begin with. You might claim there was hints of Northstar's gayness prior to #107 that someone who is gay (or gay sensitive) would notice, but as a teenager living in the country in the 80s I didn't see those hints. To me it was a gimmick to boost sells of a faultering comic by Marvel. I think it was canceled not too long after that, correct?
Edited by Wade Duvall on 19 January 2007 at 12:33pm
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Paulo Pereira
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Northstar wasn't really that well established before Alpha Flight and nothing to suggest that he wasn't or couldn't be gay. Really, I don't know see why his sexuality would be an issue.
Edited by Paulo Pereira on 19 January 2007 at 12:30pm
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David Whiteley
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Wade said, "Likewise, I am not going to search though the FAQs section for something that supports YOUR argument."
Wow, Wade, you can question the feedback from those of us who've followed the comic and this site for some time without taking this argumentative tone. It isn't OUR argument, it is how JB layered the title.
Some people indeed.
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Eric Smearman
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Anyhoo...
Aurora!
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Jacob P Secrest
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Paulo Pereira wrote:
Northstar wasn't really that well established before Alpha Flight and
nothing to suggest that he wasn't or couldn't be gay. Really, I don't know
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What Wade is arguing isn't that Northstar wasn't gay prior to Alpha Flight
but that Northstar wasn't gay until well into Alpha Flight (he keeps pulling
out the number 107), which is wrong and can be proven wrong by a
Google search.
Edited by Jacob P Secrest on 19 January 2007 at 12:37pm
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