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Robert White Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4560
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Posted: 07 December 2006 at 10:16am | IP Logged | 1
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Why is“Anti-intellectualism” espoused by pop-culture and the mass media? The general portrait of the American male, for instance, is that he doesn’t like to read, is obsessed with football and boobs, adores beer, and is generally an uncultured, myopic, imbecile. Now the truly disturbing thing is that many American males fail to see all these things as negative traits, thus leading to the often hilarious war of words when American’s and European’s interact on the internet. Does it all boil down to capitalism? When making as much money as possible is the ultimate goal of the vast majority of a country, is it inevitable that substance and culture must take a back seat? Doesn’t this illustrate the ultimate flaw in our system as well as its limitations from an evolutionary standpoint?
This is, of course, a gross generalization of the total populace. The dichotomy seems to be that while American pop-culture and entertainment loves to glorify visceral anti-intellectualism, many of the greatest and most creative scientific and artistic institutions, which get little or no mainstream attention unless an actor is somehow involved, reside right here in the good old USA. The fascinating thing is that this practice seems to be inflicted by ignorant, right-winged, theologians on one side as well as intentionally coy, iconoclastic, liberals, on the other, in their eternal war to prove who’s fantasy conception of reality is least ridiculous.
If anyone understands what the hell I’m blabbing about please comment.
(I realize that the Daily Show and Colbert Report exist to hilariously satirize this topic. That's pretty much what got me thinking on this in the first place.)
Edited by Robert White on 07 December 2006 at 10:17am
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Gregory Dickens Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 December 2006 at 10:23am | IP Logged | 2
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I think more it's a perception of the mass collage of marketing. Look at the top advertising companies and brands: drinks, pills, cleaners, sports equipment, vehicles, movies, and TV shows. They're not advertising literacy and broadened horizons. They're not obligated.
Don't believe the hype.
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John Webb Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 December 2006 at 10:59am | IP Logged | 3
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It's like all things it depends who you are talking to. Many of the sites that I go to that have many American forum members would really make you think that America is filled with total idiots. Other forums make me feel like the total idiot.
The thing people forget that in a country of around 300 million you only need a small percentage of people to be stupid and they will still number in the millions.
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Trevor Krysak Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 December 2006 at 11:26am | IP Logged | 4
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"Why is“Anti-intellectualism” espoused by pop-culture and the mass media?"
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 07 December 2006 at 11:27am | IP Logged | 5
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Robert White wrote:
general portrait of the American male, for instance, is that he doesn’t like to read, is obsessed with football and boobs, adores beer, and is generally an uncultured, myopic, imbecile. Now the truly disturbing thing is that many American males fail to see all these things as negative traits, thus leading to the often hilarious war of words when American’s and European’s interact on the internet. |
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Maybe I'm your "typical American male" in that I don't see all of the things you listed as negative traits, thus I don't find it disturbing. I love a pint of beer more than a glass of wine, as does any good German or Austrian. I certainly love football, both college and pro, and loving a sport certainly isn't exclusive to Americans. Ask just about anyone from England about their obsession with tennis or many Europeans about their obsession with soccer. There's nothing wrong with finding beauty in the female body and please don't tell me that American's are exclusive when it comes to being obsessed with certain body parts. You've never been to Italy if you actually believe that! "Uncultured, myopic, imbecile" are far too generalized, as you say yourself, for me to have any specific opinion. In the end, I think that's the key. It's easier to define a population in generalizations so you don't actually have to do the work to get to know them. We do it here in the States all the time. Southerners are generalized as being "slow" and and somewhat behind the times. Easterners are generalized as being "snooty" and too intellectual for their own good. Midwesterners are generalized as being "hayseeds" and "country folk". Westerners are generalized as being "liberal hippies" and "easygoing". I don't find it surprising that if we can create these sorts of generalizations for ourselves, that they are being created for us by other countries around the world.
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David Whiteley Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 December 2006 at 11:29am | IP Logged | 6
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David Cross wrote a great letter to "Larry the Cable Guy" that involved this very topic. I like to read it every few months.
Click here
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Kevin Hagerman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 December 2006 at 11:32am | IP Logged | 7
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I think part of the "problem" is that like any nation, we are a proud people, but unlike so many nations, we can't point out what sort of great things we were up to in, say, 1326, to pick a random year. We're still wet behind the ears.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 07 December 2006 at 11:36am | IP Logged | 8
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I love me some David Cross!
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Trevor Krysak Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 December 2006 at 11:42am | IP Logged | 9
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I haven't read that David Cross letter since it first came out last year. I loved it for the second time. And I farted!
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Roger A Ott II Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 December 2006 at 11:45am | IP Logged | 10
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I can't stand Larry the Cable Guy, so that letter got a smile from me.
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Malcolm Savoy Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 December 2006 at 12:01pm | IP Logged | 11
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Intellectuals have a bit of a reputation of being educated idiots in this (and other) countries. Nixon used to always say of Adali Stevenson that he would carefully study an issue, then make the wrong decision. I've even heard it said that a big part of Clinton's problem was that he over-thought a lot of things, and a lot of his decisions were based on who was the last person in the room; thus explaining his flip-flops on various policies. The Liberal Party got kicked out of power in the late 70s because they were eventually thought to be too far removed from the real problems of the working class.
There's an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation where Beverly calls Picard on the fact that he doesn't know what he's doing, he just picked a direction and stuck with it; which is a good part of leadership. People want to believe you know what you're doing, even if you don't have a clue. Dubya benefits mightily from this.
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 December 2006 at 12:06pm | IP Logged | 12
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I can't believe there are so many people who don't realize "Larry" (like "Carlos Mencia") is an adopted persona.
Edited by Wallace Sellars on 07 December 2006 at 12:08pm
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