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Roger Jackson
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John Byrne wrote:
Most of my Kirby pages, for instance, I bought
twenty-five or 30 years ago, when he was "Jack the
Hack" and none but a select few wanted his stuff.
The snobbery of other collectors has helped place
some wonderful stuff in my collection.
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Any chance you could stop using the term "Jack the hack?"
I understand that some people might have used it 30 years ago, but to keep bringing it up seems pointless and disrespectful to the King of comics.
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Sean Hollenhors
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I apologize if I'm playing "mind-reader" but it seems like the "Jack the Hack"
phrase is used to frame a particular mind set of specific persons in a
particular moment in time.
No one in their right mind can call Kirby a hack for real. If they do they are
piles of phrases that would get me banned from this forum
Edited by Sean Hollenhors on 11 November 2006 at 12:40am
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Gerry Turnbull
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this arrived this morning, from Mike S Miller
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Simon Matthew Park
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Beautiful.
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John Byrne
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Any chance you could stop using the term "Jack the hack?" I understand that some people might have used it 30 years ago, but to keep bringing it up seems pointless and disrespectful to the King of comics. **** That's precisely why I use the term. Those "people" -- ie, just about every fanboy out there and a whole lot of so-called "professionals" -- need to be constantly reminded of how they crapped on Kirby the moment he slipped from the top slot. To do anything else would be far more disrespectful to the man's memory.
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John Byrne
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No one in their right mind can call Kirby a hack for real.*** I don't know what it says to their mental status, but before his canonization, there were legions of people (as noted above) who were ready to dismiss everything he had done, simply because (prepare for a familiar phrase) "his old stuff was better". One thing I noticed -- and by which I was appalled -- when I got into the Biz was that there were a lot of people who insisted that an artist or writer be judged solely by their most recent work, and not by their total body of work. Thus, Jack Kirby was defined by DEVIL DINOSAUR, not what had come before it. Steve Ditko was the guy who did SquirrelGirl, not the guy who co-created Spider-Man. Wally Wood was a drunken hack, not the genius who gave us all those years of MAD, not to mention DAREDEVIL and incredible inks over Kirby. As far as I am concerned, fandom needs to be reminded every single day what a load of shitheads they can seemingly all turn into at the drop of a hat. Maybe -- just maybe -- it will help them learn not to do so!
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John Byrne
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Why did some of the early Namor issues have the shady effects made on a copy instead of having the original inked page with the effects on it, the way it was made a few issues later?*** At first, I was not sure enough about my ability to use the DuoShade board, so I copied the black line onto the sheets with my photocopier, in case I screwed up and had to start over.
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Trevor Krysak
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What size is the completed piece, Gerry?
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John Byrne
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...this arrived this morning...
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Ah, Doctor Strange's mansion! The first thing I'd model if I was ever assigned to that series!
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Gerry Turnbull
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Hey JB, why wait ?
hint hint
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Jim Campbell
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"Hey JB, why wait ?"
Bryrne on Strange? Monthly? I'd buy that for a
dollar.
Tangent*: when I first read Dr Strange, one of things
that leapt out at me was that someone in the series'
history (Roy Thomas?) clearly had Big Love for the
work of William Blake.
I always wondered if there was some serious
mileage in trying to bring that insane Blake
sensibilty to the book, rather than just
name-checking his work through the characters ...
Cheers!
Jim
*Yeah, I'm sorry. Another tangent. My brain works like
that, I'm afraid ...
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Gerry Turnbull
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Trevor its 11x14.
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