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Brian Sagar
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Paul: Fantastic additions to your collection. Besides an obvious appreciation for talented artists, how do you decide what to add to your gallery?
Edited by Brian Sagar on 08 November 2006 at 4:24pm
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Simon Matthew Park
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Dan - That's a great Superman page. I have that comic!
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Gerry Turnbull
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interesting piece on forged/fake comic art here
http://www.comicartfans.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1613
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Paul Greer
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Brian when I add to my gallery, I look at a few different things. Of course the artist always comes first then these guidelines.
- Believe it or not I'm cheap when it comes to buying art. Since JB is actually my favorite, I use his pricing on art as a guide to what I want to pay for other artists. Take Alan Davis for instance. He is a top ten favorite of mine but his pages go pretty high. I enjoyed his X-Men work the most, so I went looking for a moderately priced piece from that run. I love splash pages but don't like the high prices they sometimes fetch.
- Vintage doesn't mean much to me, I am as happy buying a page from George Perez's latest JSA issue as I would be buying a Teen Titans page. Probably more happy since I didn't violate my first rule of being cheap.
- I am not character driven. I love seeing peoples collections (like yours Brian) that have a theme, but that is not for me. When it comes to my likes and dislikes, I'm pretty much up for anything. That holds true for everything I do in life as well as my art collection. In my collection I vary from a Chris Sprouse cover to Tom Strong all the way to a page from Team America (an 80's favorite of mine and only two dollars to boot!).
- I only have a few "grails". I would be willing to break my price rule for some Kirby (I've been outbid on ebay a zillion times), Gibbons (would love to have a Green Lantern) or Simonson (Thor or X-Factor) pages. Or if I win the lottery Frank Miller. If not old Frank is not making it into my collection.
- My last criteria is that if I have to think twice about buying it, I usually pass. If I'm on the fence about a piece either for price or aesthetic appeal I leave it alone.
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Roger Jackson
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Bad Writing 101: Having characters make long
speeches while moving at high speeds.
The Skull isn't moving at superspeed (but he's moving far beyond mortal norms), but that's a heck of a mouthfull! JB was this written Marvel method?
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Ronald Pegram
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Roger,
You seem like a nice guy but I have to ask this question.
If you had fallen in a hole, and then warned someone else "Wow, don't
get too close to that hole.", would you be happy if they came back with
video of you falling while they sang "Hahahaha, don't get too close to
the hole?!"
I mean, JB said Bad Writing 101. He didn't say "Here's some shit I've never done."
Maybe he was just saying it's dumb whenever someone does it, including him...
...and I'm mind-reading so I should get blasted but I just think the
guy has a right to criticize even if he does something similar. I mean,
we all do that, right?
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Paul Greer
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Roger, I'll be nice. Why don't you participate in this threads original intent to show off some recent art purchases? It seems like you have a lot of old JB comics on hand to show us specific panels, do you have any of his original art? Or anyone else's for that matter. Try and be a part of this forum instead of trying to show how cool you are to a bunch of us comic geeks.
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Roger Jackson
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Maybe he was just saying it's dumb whenever someone does it, including him...
But he didn't say that, glass houses and all that. And I did say it happened a lot in comics, there was another example!
Paul---I have no original art (I wish did, and I love the stuff in this thread). I only posted those examples in response to the "bad writing" comment, which led to some degree of thread drift. Not trying to be cool, we're all comic geeks after all!:)
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Richard Siegel
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Speaking of Swan, just got this off e-bay . Dont know who inked this - Id guess Frank Chiramonte. Or someone I dont recognize from the 80s
Edited by Richard Siegel on 08 November 2006 at 11:22pm
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Roger Jackson
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I don't usually like to respond to Roger, but there was a little thing called the comics code authority that would have not allowed the action described in the WCA panel to actually be shown. But you already knew that. Trying to be funny doesn't always mean you make a valid point.
Yeah the comics code wouldn't be allowed to show that, but it didn't have to be written as such a grisly scene. It could have been done as a classic Marvel slugfest!
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Brett Rankin
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Roger you have to remember that comics are about words and art. I lashed out earlier in this thread about bad writing and I feel bad. Sometimes that happens - it's one of those things. Look at it and you'll see where I slipped up.
Captain America and US Agent aren't the same guy - they're gonna have different things happen in their comics. Plus, Mephisto isn't actually the devil per se, so there's the variations on that, too. It's all good, man.
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Joakim Jahlmar
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Nice Davis page, Paul (o and the Weeks/Palmer is really good too).
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