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Stephen Rockwood
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 4:30pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Hey JB,

When you do a commission of 11" X 17" do you use regular comic boards? If
so what do you use for the 20" X 30" pictures?
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Andrew Hope
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 6:01pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Regarding the "requirement" of only posting nice things about John Byrne's artwork here, I agree with the majority.  There's no such requirement.  The fact that the views on the artwork are overwhelmingly positive spring from two very obvious sources: this is a John Byrne fan forum, and John Byrne is a very good comic book artist.  It's not unsurprising that the praise may seem overly skewed, but what would one expect.

Regarding the criticisms of this particular commission, I suppose this is how I look at it: have at it all you like, but remember, while this is a public forum, the owner of the forum is here pretty much all the time.  I might be down on someone for the work they produce, but I'd never dream of pointing out my perceived flaws in the work while the person is around to hear it.  I think it's just impolite to do so in the presence of the creator of the work.  I mean, what exactly is the point of airing out one's grievances of this commission in public, exactly?  I can't imagine it would be with the intention to start a meaningful dialogue.

There's absolutely no reason why these private commissions should be posted to this forum.  While I might see little things here and there I might not like in a couple of them, I'm just very appreciative of the fact that I get to see them at all.
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 6:19pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

When you do a commission of 11" X 17" do you use regular comic boards? If so what do you use for the 20" X 30" pictures?

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Yes; and heavier stock I pick up at Staples.

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Simon Matthew Park
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 6:43pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Andrew H, I agree. Well put! I also count myself lucky to see these things. Every time I see one of these drawings, I feel like a kid again. It's that "Wow!" factor. I can't help but think how excited I would have been, at age fourteen or fifiteen, to see new work by JB hot off the drawing board (so to speak). I really get a buzz out of it.

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William Ramey
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:01pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Staples? I never thought of that store.
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Andrew Hope
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:08pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

SMP - I totally feel the same way.  I will be honest, and say I count myself in among those fans who think (as much as I hate to say it) that the "old stuff was better", though in saying that I'm not exactly sure why.  I look at John's second stint on She Hulk and don't find much to love about the artwork, and that was, what, 13 years or so ago?  A lot of what he's done in the last five years has been far better than that work.  I think it's a case of not loving the books he's been on recently, more than a decline in love for the actual artwork itself - but I'm digressing a little.  IN SPITE of what I just said, I too get the same feeling looking at these commissions that I did anticipating buying the next issue of X-Men and FF many years ago. 

Hmm.  I was going to say something else, prompted by my reading of an electronic copy of the recent Byrne Modern Masters - emailed to me by a friend, in case anyone does the Donald Sutherland pointing thing at me - but it's gone now.  Something about John's desire to work only on big titles because the ones he's chosen recently don't seem to be working out.  I'm paraphrasing, perhaps inaccurately.
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:27pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

'The Donald Sutherland pointing thing' - Andrew, that's one of the scariest scenes in any movie! I'd forgotten it until I read your post, and burst out laughing! Classic!
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:30pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

You should have read my  post before I proofread it. 

"Something about John's desire to work only on big tities" was how it went.


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Thomas Moudry
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:45pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I just got a look at that JSA/Galactus...man! That's somethin'!
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Vinny Valenti
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:54pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

"I get a stong Gil Kane vibe on the Iron Fist in the second comission."

Interesting....I got a sense of almost-pure Cockrum, particularly in IF's facial expression.
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Mark McKay
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 10:00pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Me too, Vinny. I thought of Cockrum right when I saw it.
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J.C. Alexander
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 11:46pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Personally, I think both versions would make a unique and inherently valuable collector's piece if someone wanted take both commissions and frame them side-by-side...*hint, hint*

JB: Is it just me or do you intentionly make Nightcrawler look demonic?

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