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Cory Vandernet
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 I was looking thru the sketchbook I was given long ago by JB, and I noticed something I missed all these years. It's the page layout to the original version of X-Men #138, before the changes were made. I hope you can make it out, I thought it might be of interest.
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The lettering in the sketchbook is very small, let's try...

Page 1

Scott & Jean walk in woods

Page 2

1 Jean enjoying herself, Scott concerned

2,3 Remembers first time he saw her (roughhouse, window)

4 Their first battle with Magneto

5 Magneto escapes

6 Vanisher, Blob, mini montage

Page 3

1 Brotherhood of Evil Mutants - Witch, Quicksilver, Toad, Mastermind

2 Battle in South America

3 Battle in Grand Central

4 Battle on Asteroid M

5 Which blows up as X-Men escape

 

 
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I love seeing this kind of stuff!  Thanks for posting this Cory - a real treat to see.
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We have up here the initial splash page and panels of the 2 final pages. What we don't have are the panels intercalated in the flashbacks pages.
The published panels showed a mourning Cyclops as a narrator. Were the original ones substituted or did Byrne redraw over them?
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Do you have a better scan/resolution of the page layout to the original version of X-Men #138? Some phrases are difficult to read!
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Let's try it this way. Like I said the lettering is very small.
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Picking up from the post upthread, because the size of the printing is still a little hard to read

Page 4

1 Intro Cerebro

2 Scott is now leader

3 Angel whisks Jean away as she & Scott think lovey stuff

4 Out of flashback to them thinking "If I knew then..."

5 Back to flashback for Ka-Zar (Jean remembering this time)

Page 5

1 Then the Stranger

2 Who kidnaps 
3 Magneto & Toad

4 Then Juggernaut
5
6

Page 6

1 Then the Sentinels -
2 of Bolivar Trask -

3 Then Dr. Strange
4 & Juggy

5 Scott & Jean finally declare their love

6 Out of flashback for smooch

Page 7

1 Back into flashback for Bobbie's 18th birthday
   
   Montage of Villains

   New Costumes -

Page 8

1 Grotesk

2 Death of Xavier

3 FBI causes break up of team -

4 Lorna

5 Mesmero

Page 9

1 Magneto again
2

3 Alex

4 Living Pharoah

5 Living Monolith

6 Sentinels

Page 10

1 More Sentinels

2 Sauron
3

4 Ka-Zar

5 Magneto

6 Sunfire




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Page 11

1 Resurrection of Xavier

2 Z'Nox

3 Out of flashback
4 for interegnum
   stuff

5 The New Team

Page 12

1 Krakoa

2 Departure of 
3 First Team

4 Nefaria & Ani-Men

5 Death of T'Bird
6

Page 13

1 Out of flashback again - for angst
2

3 Sentinels

4 X-Sentinels

5 Solar Storm

Page 14

1 Phoenix

2 Juggy & Black Tom

3 Magneto

4 Jean & Scott think
5 each other dead

Page 15

   Montage
   of Villains 
   up to

2 Mutant X

3 Kitty Pryde

4 Hellfire Club

Page 16

1 Dark Phoenix

2 Lobotomy by
   Lilandra -

3 Out of flashback
   as they reach 
   house

4 Tearful farewells
5 (Wolvie not
6 there)

Page 17

1 Scott & Jean
   leave

2 Others depart
3 to rooms

4 Xavier alone

5 Taxi pulls up

6 Kitty
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Thanks a lot! With the new scan it was enough, you didn't have to write everything!
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This thread was a massive pleasure when it allowed a trip down the road-not-traveled into another version of the X-Men, if JB had not left.

At the time, there was no concept whatsoever of doing X-Men Elsewhen. In fact, at the time, some questions were asked about possibly commissioning a new issue of "Untold" X-Men material.

What a thrill to look through this and know that, ultimately (IMHO), we got something FAR BETTER than what was originally planned.
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Looking this over again, I’m reminded of yet another example of the “collaboration” between Chris and me.

When Scott left, I wanted it to be very clear that it was only temporary. He wanted some “space” to clear his head, but he had every intention to come back, and would say so.

Not how Chris scripted it.

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I think Chris was just being Chris. After all, he brought him back fully a year later, while keeping tabs on him all the way. Even the issue after you left had a Cyclops story!!
I honestly think he didn't like the character, that's why he never lost a chance to have him second fidle next to Wolverine or Storm and the Madelyne mix-up was beyond terrible. He has gone on record to say he gave Scott a farewell with Madelyne, when in fact he had laid numerous plot points hanging about her real identity. Heck, the fact that she LOOKED EXACTLY like Jean is enough!!! And when he got pushed by the return of Jean Grey he let the flood gates open, destroying whatever chance there could be to make a smooth transition back to Jean... 
Add his obsession to have Jean hook up with Logan and the retroactive change in their dynamic via Classic X-Men back stories were the more than I could stomach. Unfortunately, this stupid lie, that Jean liked Logan from the start, is considered canon...


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